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Jim from NSF.com
post Jun 5 2006, 08:54 PM
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Saw the MSL video, which was similar to the MER video. It was awesome. Will try to get a copy
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post Jun 25 2012, 02:43 PM
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Yes Doug is correct. On PHX, we actually had a better, more glancing view angle from MRO that increased the chances that we could see the PHX under its parachute. Despite the much smaller ellipse for MSL, MRO will be looking more straight down toward the ground (nadir) so the amount of "swept volume" is less than we had with PHX. So I think the odds will be about the same (I have not done the math comparison so take my words loosely please).

Hi Oersted, as far as I know, there is no MRO code update, only new sequences for the imaging and the attitude profile.

Pospa, with so many things that need to go right, skepticism is a natural and proper reaction. We live in a world where healthy skepticism is needed for success. As Adam points out in the video, if you stand back and look at all of this, one could and should be skeptical. Only by thinking critically every day about failure modes might we find a pathway to success. (Say hi to the "Cosmo gang" in CZ for me.)

On that note, one of my more odd (recent) jobs as chief engineer (which is a bit like chief of "odds and ends") is to help coordinate the contingency plans for what might happen if we lose the signal(s) from the vehicle during or just after EDL. For example, on a good day the EDL team will be tired, happy and ready to celebrate or sleep. On a bad day I need to make sure that they instead come back to work after a short sleep and help analyze the data and (UHF and X-band) signals so that they might inform the surface team about the state of the rover and perhaps allow us to regain communication with the rover. Of course losing the signals during EDL is not exactly a great sign, but we all know that there are real failure modes and conditions where we lose the signals and yet the rover will land safely. In some (fault) cases the first time we would hear from the rover would be a day or so later. (bring in the antacid!). I am also working with the MRO gang to see when we might get a post-landed HiIRSE picture. The geometries are not great until a week later, but we may try something earlier. Working on it.

That I have some time to do this is a good sign. We still have a lot of "paper work" to close out and we are madly doing that too. (Yeah, we will still land regardless of the status of the paper, but we are trying to keep our promises.)

Ok, enough procrastination ... must ... get .... back ... to .... work. tongue.gif

I'll stop by again in a week or so.

-Rob
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- Jim from NSF.com   MSL Video   Jun 5 2006, 08:54 PM
- - nprev   Now, now, let's not forget that the primary ob...   Jun 27 2011, 03:06 AM
- - Oersted   ..Hope you didn't miss the "Love the anim...   Jun 27 2011, 08:42 PM
- - monty python   Beautifull morning flights there. All you peoples...   Jun 28 2011, 07:44 AM
- - monty python   Sorry to resurrect an old thread here but after lo...   Nov 21 2011, 07:57 AM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (monty python @ Nov 21 2011, 08:57 ...   Nov 21 2011, 12:45 PM
- - nprev   Not a bad question, but I don't think it will ...   Nov 21 2011, 09:04 AM
|- - MahFL   I think I read somewhere the Skycrane would head o...   Nov 21 2011, 11:09 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 21 2011, 01:04 AM) The...   Nov 21 2011, 03:24 PM
- - Oersted   Well, they had two extra years to enter some extra...   Nov 22 2011, 11:13 PM
|- - MarsEngineer   QUOTE (Oersted @ Nov 22 2011, 04:13 PM) W...   Nov 23 2011, 01:40 AM
- - nprev   I think that adding a new requirement (and new sof...   Nov 22 2011, 11:27 PM
- - MarsEngineer   Hi all, It has been a long time since I have post...   Nov 23 2011, 01:27 AM
- - nprev   You heard the man, people. (And thanks for posting...   Nov 23 2011, 01:37 AM
|- - MarsEngineer   QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 22 2011, 06:37 PM) You...   Nov 23 2011, 01:42 AM
- - nprev   ...meh, I'm sometimes unpleasantly persistent....   Nov 23 2011, 01:56 AM
- - monty python   I love this place!!   Nov 23 2011, 07:02 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (MarsEngineer @ Nov 22 2011, 05:27 ...   Nov 23 2011, 07:14 AM
|- - MarsEngineer   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 22 2011, 11:14 P...   Nov 23 2011, 05:43 PM
- - remcook   Wow, it's getting really close now. Fingers cr...   Nov 23 2011, 03:17 PM
- - eoincampbell   Mr Manning stopping by, how awesome is that! A...   Nov 23 2011, 05:13 PM
- - elakdawalla   That one took a little more detective work than us...   Nov 23 2011, 06:24 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 23 2011, 07:24 P...   Nov 23 2011, 06:55 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 23 2011, 07:24 P...   Nov 23 2011, 06:58 PM
- - eoincampbell   From the animation so full of detail, could someon...   Jun 23 2012, 04:35 PM
- - djellison   That's just a thin foam jacket around the tank...   Jun 24 2012, 12:41 AM
- - pospa   In this traditional pre-landing video Seven Minute...   Jun 24 2012, 07:56 PM
|- - MarsEngineer   Yes, 76 is about right. And yes, each is for a sep...   Jun 25 2012, 12:44 AM
|- - pospa   QUOTE (MarsEngineer @ Jun 25 2012, 02:44 ...   Jun 25 2012, 06:43 AM
- - nprev   Thanks very much, Rob; always a pleasure to hear t...   Jun 25 2012, 03:00 AM
|- - MarsEngineer   My pleasure as well, nprev. It is good to see you ...   Jun 25 2012, 03:50 AM
|- - Oersted   QUOTE (MarsEngineer @ Jun 25 2012, 05:50 ...   Jun 25 2012, 01:07 PM
- - djellison   HiRISE will be trying again to get MSL during EDL....   Jun 25 2012, 01:23 PM
- - MarsEngineer   Yes Doug is correct. On PHX, we actually had a bet...   Jun 25 2012, 02:43 PM
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