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post Jun 5 2006, 08:54 PM
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Saw the MSL video, which was similar to the MER video. It was awesome. Will try to get a copy
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post Jun 6 2006, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Jun 5 2006, 05:54 PM) *
Saw the MSL video, which was similar to the MER video. It was awesome. Will try to get a copy


http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/multimedia/...x_animation.php
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post Jun 6 2006, 04:23 AM
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Very nice, but that video's for the 2007 Phoenix lander, not the 2009 MSL rover.

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post Jun 6 2006, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Jun 5 2006, 10:54 PM) *
Saw the MSL video...

Where did you saw it Jim?


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post Jun 6 2006, 02:12 PM
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Where did you saw it Jim?
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MSL PDR
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post Jun 6 2006, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Jun 6 2006, 10:12 AM) *
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Where did you saw it Jim?
MSL PDR


It looks like they have a place on the MSL web site where the video will be added (hopefully soon): http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/gallery/


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post Jun 6 2006, 05:55 PM
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There is GIGANTIC image of MSL here.
Link to 25 MB jpeg image...
Is that maybe still from that animation you were talking about Jim?
Looks to me like there is some work to be done on that rendering like adding RTG's...


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Looks to me like there is some work to be done on that rendering like adding RTG's...
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It is strange that nearly every image of MSL has it without its RTG. Very strange, is it expected to be powered by dark energy? smile.gif

Probably they keep it out of the publicity images to keep a lower profile since there are some groups that adamantly oppose *anything* nuclear. Even peaceful scientific missions...

Also, the camera on the mast surprises me. Would they not have two camera's for binocular vision? How can they tell distances without it?
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post Jun 6 2006, 09:07 PM
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It is a stereo camera -- it just doesn't look like one in the drawing. (By the way, the "ChemCam" experiment that will fire a laser at mineral targets as much as a dozen meters away, to obtain instantaneous and sensitive spectra of their element makeup, also includes a black-and-white telescopic targeting camera that will also be used for very high-resolution long-distance images of terrain features.)
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post Jun 7 2006, 07:51 AM
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One thing that the MERs have shown us is that the surface of rocks on mars can have a substantial rind of altered rock or deposited material and dust coatings. How is the chem cam + laser going to detect the rock underneath this rind and not just the ubiquitous dust covering? Are they going to brush the rocks first then standoff and zap them, my understanding was that the chem cam was going to be a remote sensing instrument (as described by bruce in the above post). Will that be tempered by the need to 'clean' the rock surface first.
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post Jun 7 2006, 08:32 AM
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Any possible use to detect Purgatory's sort of trap ?


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post Jun 7 2006, 09:31 AM
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For quite a while, I've been frustrated that the rovers can't look under their deck. It would have been helpfull for Purgatory's kind of events. This could have been solved by adding a simple mirror on the IDD so the cameras would have been able to take pictures. A bit tricky but may be an idea for MSL.


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post Jun 7 2006, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (climber @ Jun 7 2006, 11:31 AM) *
This could have been solved by adding a simple mirror on the IDD so the cameras would have been able to take pictures.


Voila!



And Horton did a nice work on the raw 12-bit images here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonheardawho/161036378/
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QUOTE (paxdan @ Jun 7 2006, 03:51 AM) *
How is the chem cam + laser going to detect the rock underneath this rind and not just the ubiquitous dust covering?


The laser itself clears the dust and then vaporizes the rock surface layer by layer for spectroscopic analysis (of the vaporized material, I assume). The area sampled by the laser is 0.5 to 1mm in diameter but I wonder what the maximum depth is that can be reached.

There's an interesting pdf power point presentation here:
http://libs.lanl.gov/ChemCam_Fact_Sheet.pdf
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post Jun 7 2006, 04:01 PM
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[quote name='Tesheiner' date='Jun 7 2006, 12:19 PM' post='57377']
Voila!


Do you mean, it's for REAL or is that another trick? If real, don't you think it could have been of some use while stucked in the sand ?


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