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Dim thinking on a bright subject, Native americans using classical constellations? Hardly!
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post Jun 7 2006, 02:31 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if certain people really got the qualifications for their job, this is one such.
Mr John Barentine who works at the Apache Point Observatory have come up with a theory that a native american petroglyph depicts the supernova of the year 1006, yes 1000 years ago.
One of the reasons he think this is a depiction of a supernova is that it got something that looks like a star, well native american often used that shape.
What worries me is that Mr Barentine think that the image of a scorpion in the pertroglyph are some kind of proof.
The supernova appeared in the constellation Lupus (the wolf) which are located quite near Scorpius (The scorpion) but.....
The constellation we see are derived from cultures in the eastern Mediterranean (while the star names we use often are arabic). But the native americans are rather unlikely to see the same constellations as those from the old world. In short a small fact that make the theory derail completely.

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post Jun 9 2006, 12:45 PM
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Transatlantic contacts may go back much further, to the Solutreans and the Clovis if I remember right.

Ancient folk memories of major geophysical events are a fascinating subject too (formation of Meteor Crater, flooding of the Black Sea, secular changes in the appearance of certain stars etc.), but it is one of those areas where it is hard for the lay person to distinguish beween wishful thinking or sensationalism and completely sound scholarship.
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- Myran   Dim thinking on a bright subject   Jun 7 2006, 02:31 PM
- - remcook   I had the same thought exactly.   Jun 7 2006, 02:54 PM
- - The Messenger   Well, there are religions that still teach that na...   Jun 7 2006, 05:33 PM
- - Myran   QUOTE The Messenger wrote: There were a number of...   Jun 7 2006, 06:31 PM
- - ljk4-1   This Sky & Telescope news item is quite skepti...   Jun 7 2006, 07:42 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   The star is a common pattern in Chaco culture. But...   Jun 7 2006, 08:11 PM
- - Myran   QUOTE Richard Trigaux wrote: Perhaps some related ...   Jun 9 2006, 10:28 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   Thanks Myran for your native wisdom. Nice to see ...   Jun 9 2006, 12:30 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jun 9 2006, 06:3...   Jun 11 2006, 12:16 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jun 11 2006, 01:16 ...   Jun 11 2006, 12:39 AM
- - ngunn   Transatlantic contacts may go back much further, t...   Jun 9 2006, 12:45 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jun 9 2006, 12:45 PM) Tran...   Jun 9 2006, 05:59 PM
- - ljk4-1   I once speculated on the net that the Great Flood ...   Jun 9 2006, 07:17 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jun 9 2006, 07:17 PM...   Jun 10 2006, 06:55 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   Richard: I believe that some underwater surveys o...   Jun 10 2006, 04:47 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Crater Lake in Oregon is a caldera produced by the...   Jun 10 2006, 02:12 AM
- - Jyril   That hypothesis sounds intriguing, but I've re...   Jun 10 2006, 08:43 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (Jyril @ Jun 10 2006, 08:43 PM) Tha...   Jun 11 2006, 07:13 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   Yes it is fascinating to track past events known o...   Jun 11 2006, 06:20 AM


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