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Retroactive moon re-namings, 20/20 hindsight... |
Jun 15 2006, 04:23 PM
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One bothersome thing about the naming scheme of Saturn's moons is that the one moon in the Solar System that most obviously deserves to be named after the two-faced god "Janus" ended up being called Iapetus instead. Also, since the mythological Iapetus was the father of Epimetheus, Prometheus, and Atlas, the moon that ended up being called Janus would really be much better suited to being named Iapetus. So, in a way, Janus and Iapetus have got each other's names.
(This all has to do, incidentally, with John Herschel's naming scheme for Saturnian moons, which suggests that they all be named after the Titans. "Janus" doesn't appear on this list, so it didn't get used at first. Of course, the convention didn't stick; it was broken with the naming of Mimas and Enceladus, though some subsequent discoveries have been named after other Titans.) So I thought I'd start a topic on what Solar System bodies really should have different names, based on the importance of the Greco-Roman gods they are named after, and on information we have access to in the 21st century which the bodies' discoverers didn't know. There isn't much point to this, since obviously the names can't be changed now, but I thought it'd be fun to toss some ideas around. The only other major change I'd make, if I had my "druthers" (ah there, Walt Kelly) would be to switch the names of the "Big Four" asteroids with those of the Galilean moons. It's kind of silly to name a 250-km asteroid after the Queen of Olympus when there's a body twenty times bigger named after a shepherd. [Edit: Upon a bit more reflection, I can think of two others. One of these is so glaringly axiomatic to anyone who speaks English that, naturally, I didn't think of it at first. The other is not so obvious and I'll wait to see if anyone else comes up with it.] |
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Jun 16 2006, 12:49 PM
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Introduction to Asteroids lists several naming problems.
1036 Ganymed and Ganymede 203 Kallisto and Callisto 38 Leda and Leda 85 Io and Io 106 Dione and Dione 593 Titania and Titania Also, several pairs of asteroids are confusingly named. 908 Buda and 1158 Luda 1266 Tone and 924 Toni ( by now there is probably a Tony out there too . . . .) 1792 Reni and 1371 Resi 265 Anna and 1668 Hanna (There is quite a list of these) I suppose we can caution folks to be careful picking names, but once IAU confers the blessing, we be stuck with the it. |
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Jun 16 2006, 01:06 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 2-July 05 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 426 |
In other news...
1266 Tone and 924 Toni ( by now there is probably a Tony out there too . . . .) Well, as long as the number is included, it shouldn't be a problem. That's the key. A far worse problem can be found in the naming of the chemical elements. Four of them are named after the town of Ytterby in Sweden: yttrium, ytterbium, erbium and terbium. Letting a discoverer name their discovery is all fine and dandy but this is bloody confusing! Chemistry is difficult enough to learn without throwing curveballs like this at the students. Don't get me started on "metal-rich stars"... |
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Rob Pinnegar Retroactive moon re-namings Jun 15 2006, 04:23 PM
Bob Shaw Rob:
A planet which should be renamed? Can't ... Jun 15 2006, 04:50 PM
David This is an interesting topic. I don't agree a... Jun 15 2006, 05:29 PM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (David @ Jun 15 2006, 11:29 AM) Io ... Jun 16 2006, 12:51 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jun 16 2006, 08:51 ... Jun 16 2006, 01:05 PM
DonPMitchell I think it's an urban myth that the 9th planet... Jun 15 2006, 05:46 PM
David QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 15 2006, 05:46 ... Jun 15 2006, 07:26 PM

Jyril QUOTE (David @ Jun 15 2006, 10:26 PM) Jup... Jun 15 2006, 08:35 PM

David QUOTE (Jyril @ Jun 15 2006, 08:35 PM) Per... Jun 15 2006, 08:54 PM

ljk4-1 QUOTE (David @ Jun 15 2006, 04:54 PM) Yes... Jun 15 2006, 09:12 PM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jun 15 2006, 09:12 P... Jun 16 2006, 07:12 AM

Jyril QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jun 16 2006, 10... Jun 16 2006, 09:45 AM

Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Jyril @ Jun 16 2006, 09:45 AM) Sin... Jun 16 2006, 10:13 AM

Jyril QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jun 16 2006, 01... Jun 16 2006, 01:53 PM
Jyril QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 15 2006, 08:46 ... Jun 15 2006, 08:23 PM
Phil Stooke I think I detect a few guarded references to The P... Jun 15 2006, 06:10 PM
Richard Trigaux Roman Gods? Why not other gods? There are plenty o... Jun 15 2006, 08:49 PM
DonPMitchell If you open up the issue of renaming the planets, ... Jun 16 2006, 07:35 AM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 16 2006, 07:35 ... Jun 16 2006, 09:38 AM
edstrick I want a planet named Englebert. Jun 16 2006, 09:38 AM
tty QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jun 16 2006, 03:06 ... Jun 16 2006, 08:47 PM
ilbasso Since everything in America is gradually being ren... Jun 16 2006, 01:33 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (ilbasso @ Jun 16 2006, 08:33 AM) S... Jun 16 2006, 10:40 PM
ljk4-1 While I would hate to see it go to extremes, I don... Jun 16 2006, 01:40 PM
DonPMitchell This is a strange thread. Who are we to rename pl... Jun 16 2006, 10:29 PM
Richard Trigaux To be noted a thread on naming unnamed asteroids, ... Jun 17 2006, 07:49 AM
Rob Pinnegar Just wrapping up a loose end here: In the first po... Jun 28 2006, 05:37 AM
volcanopele Europa shall hense forth be known as Lilliput and ... Jun 28 2006, 05:51 PM![]() ![]() |
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