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Tesla Motors: Another Elon Musk enterprise, Another of the SpaceX founder's investments |
Jul 10 2006, 11:57 AM
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I'm not sure when the countdown page went up, but looks like the first peek will come on July 20:
Random thoughts:
I'm glad that Doug has this chat section. This seems far enough from the subject matter of UMSF that I worried about posting it. Five degrees of separation on this topic, I suppose...UMSF : Launch Vehicles : Falcon : Elon Musk : Tesla Motors. |
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Jul 11 2006, 09:55 AM
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What we want is cars that run off zero-point energy... or perpetual motion engines... or wishfull thinking...
The pure-electric's not going to hack it despite wacky agenda-full documentaries from people who's science and engineering grasp is the average level of a sociology student at the Peoples University of Berkeley <I'm being nasty> Pure electric autos will require battery technology (or supercapacitor... or... or) that can hold humongous charge safely and recharge FAST. Fuel cells have a way to go but are a real candidate for a solution to replace the infernal-combustion engine for most uses. They're still "fussy" and I think tend to deliver low currents for practical systems, but could be used in fuel-cell/battery-electric hybrids. The big question is the fuel. Hydrogen is not an energy SOURCE, it's an energy STORAGE MEDIUM... like a battery. Hydrogen storage technologies are lousy, and we've only had incremental improvement. Methane/Propane fuel cells are better, but then we're back to carbon containing fuels. We'll get there, but it's going to take serious engineering, and time. And politically driven engineering like the big 1990's push to the pure electric car won't get us there any more than the space shuttle gave us the future we expected it to. |
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crabbsaline Tesla Motors: Another Elon Musk enterprise Jul 10 2006, 11:57 AM
Cugel Well, I have an electrical car myself. A Toyota Pr... Jul 10 2006, 01:04 PM
DonPMitchell If you factor in the efficiency of generating and ... Jul 10 2006, 08:01 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jul 10 2006, 08:01 ... Jul 10 2006, 09:54 PM
helvick QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Jul 10 2006, 10... Jul 10 2006, 10:57 PM
tty QUOTE (helvick @ Jul 11 2006, 12:57 AM) C... Jul 11 2006, 06:09 AM
DonPMitchell Helvick makes the good point that power plants can... Jul 11 2006, 08:53 AM
crabbsaline Part of the beauty of it is the flexibility of cho... Jul 11 2006, 12:39 AM
djellison The real advance will be the electric car using fu... Jul 11 2006, 09:27 AM
MizarKey QUOTE (edstrick @ Jul 11 2006, 02:55 AM) ... Jul 11 2006, 06:54 PM
jrdahlman Carefull... any debate over alternative energy cou... Jul 11 2006, 04:35 PM
helvick QUOTE (jrdahlman @ Jul 11 2006, 05:35 PM)... Jul 11 2006, 06:08 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (helvick @ Jul 11 2006, 06:08 PM) F... Jul 12 2006, 10:36 AM
jrdahlman Edit: I should have said I've been raving abou... Jul 11 2006, 04:48 PM
Richard Trigaux as edstrick says, hydrogen is not an energy source... Jul 11 2006, 05:32 PM
djellison Get this - on a trip to Coniston a few weeks back.... Jul 12 2006, 10:48 AM
jamescanvin In Sydney we can go one better.
Solar powered ... Jul 12 2006, 11:02 AM
DonPMitchell QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jul 12 2006, 04:02 A... Jul 13 2006, 10:49 AM
jamescanvin QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jul 13 2006, 08:49 ... Jul 14 2006, 01:46 AM
crabbsaline The car was unveiled at Midnight, California time:... Jul 20 2006, 07:37 AM
Richard Trigaux Hmmm...
Yes, nice car for car lovers.
The probl... Jul 20 2006, 08:24 AM
crabbsaline Richard,
I've thought about solar panels. Th... Jul 20 2006, 01:44 PM
Richard Trigaux QUOTE (crabbsaline @ Jul 20 2006, 01:44 P... Jul 20 2006, 03:42 PM
djellison It might make sense if you could have an intellige... Jul 20 2006, 04:08 PM
helvick QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 20 2006, 05:08 PM)... Jul 20 2006, 05:40 PM
djellison I didn't say it made financial sense
Doug Jul 20 2006, 07:04 PM
helvick QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 20 2006, 08:04 PM)... Jul 20 2006, 07:52 PM
crabbsaline Looks like cost will be around $100,000:
CBS... Jul 25 2006, 01:05 AM![]() ![]() |
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