What did you expect?, The day they landed, what did you expect the MERs to achieve? |
What did you expect?, The day they landed, what did you expect the MERs to achieve? |
Jul 20 2006, 01:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 16-March 05 Member No.: 198 |
Squyres is on record saying that he thought, 120 - 140...maybe 180. Personally - I was thinking 180, twice the life of Pathfinder just about. 900....don't be so stupid. Doug In one sense the MERs have still not surpassed the Sojourner part of Pathfinder (although they're now very close). Pathfinder's little rover was only supposed to last a week but ended up lasting as long as the base station: 83 sols. That's nearly twelve times longer than it's projected lifetime. Spirit & Opportunity won't surpass that milestone until (by my calculations) around about Sol 1068. ====== Stephen |
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Jul 21 2006, 11:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Talking about longevity, I wonder for how long were disigned the "stuff" used only once. I mainly think of what was used to deploy the rovers... the "Origami devices". Were they only pyros or were there some motors to deploy solar panels wings, weels? Side question is : is there some unused devices that can still operate? Would have been good to stow Spirit's right front weel for exemple or to shake the solar panel (if the dust didn't stick).
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Jul 21 2006, 11:31 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14434 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
There were motors to open the petals of the landers, and the solar arrays. The ones for the petals were used multiple times, to try and shuffle airbags around with Spirit, and to make the egress a little easier for Opportunity.
The solar array motors, I'm not sure. I wouldn't want to use them to 'shake' dust off...the potential for damage is huge. They may even be totally broken, or unuseable at the moment. BUT If I could guarentee them working the other way in a few months time (which is an impossible thing) , I might be tempted to drive solar array motors just 10 degrees or so if the geometry means it would help the power issue. The front wheel deployment 'clicked' into place iirc, and so couldn't be 'un' driven as I understand it. Doug |
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Jul 21 2006, 11:32 AM
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
To be honest, I didn't really have expectations, just hopes. Hopes that they would work and they would do well. Seeing the first shots were just marvelous and everything after almost a bonus. But now they have done better than I even hoped and with this forum in place the whole 'MER experience' is just far better than I could have imagined. Bless the internet (and Doug of course)!
These days I almost take the rovers for granted, but sometimes stop and think how cool this all is May the rovers live on and on and on and on and on |
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Jul 21 2006, 11:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
There were motors to open the petals of the landers, and the solar arrays. The ones for the petals were used multiple times, to try and shuffle airbags around with Spirit, and to make the egress a little easier for Opportunity. Oh yes, I remember that QUOTE The solar array motors, I'm not sure. I wouldn't want to use them to 'shake' dust off...the potential for damage is huge. They may even be totally broken, or unuseable at the moment. BUT If I could guarentee them working the other way in a few months time (which is an impossible thing) , I might be tempted to drive solar array motors just 10 degrees or so if the geometry means it would help the power issue. Yes, in all case this would be a trade between risks & benefit. Just currious is they are still in working order since so many thing happen that were though impossible. QUOTE The front wheel deployment 'clicked' into place iirc, and so couldn't be 'un' driven as I understand it. Doug That was definitely the safest way to do things and I wonder if it could be a solution for MSL to "fix" this by allowing this capabilty. I remember of such a discution 3 months ago about how to fix Spirit stucked weel but I don't remember seing this "solution" be proposed. -------------------- |
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Jul 21 2006, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
Have they determined how "sticky" Martian dust is?
Is it more or less so than lunar dust? This information may determine whether tipping the rovers any would make a difference or not in terms of getting rid of dust. -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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