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hal_9000
post Jul 15 2006, 12:28 AM
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From http://science.slashdot.org/science/06/07/13/1654200.shtml


Apollo 11 TV Tapes Go Missing

Posted by timothy on Thursday July 13, @07:22PM
from the check-the-roswell-basement dept.

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Richard W.M. Jones writes "On July 21st 1969, Honeysuckle Creek observatory brought us the first TV pictures of men on the moon. The original signals were recorded on high quality slow-scan TV (SSTV) tapes. What was released to the TV networks was reduced to lower quality commercial TV standards. Unfortunately John Sarkissian of Parkes Observatory Australia reports that 698 of the 700 boxes of original tapes have gone missing [warning: large PDF] from the U.S. National Archives. Even more worryingly, the last place on earth which can actually read these tapes is scheduled to close in October this year. The PDF contains interesting comparisons which show that if all you've seen are the TV pictures from the landing, you really haven't seen the first moon walk in its full glory."

PDF: http://www.honeysucklecreek.net.nyud.net:8..._SSTV_Tapes.pdf
SITE: http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11/TV_from_Moon.html
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Oh yes, I certainly did. I was a teenager in England, where the EVA happened after midnight. I stayed up all night, my family thought I was nuts. They showed it live, then when it was over they repeated the whole thing, and after that I walked down the road and bought one of every newspaper as the shops opened. It was great! Bliss was it, etc.

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post Jul 24 2006, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 03:25 AM) *
Oh yes, I certainly did. I was a teenager in England, where the EVA happened after midnight. I stayed up all night, my family thought I was nuts.

Luckily my own family didn't think like that. When Armstrong & Aldrin decided to go early it was the middle of the day for me--a school day! So I might have missed the entire thing. (I was about The Other Doug's age.) Fortune smiled, however. My mother came and plucked my brothers and me out of class and took us home to watch it.

(Not that you saw very much at first! As anyone who saw that telecast can testify, at first the contrast was so bad that it was not at all clear what you were looking at! To me it looked like a lot of vague shapes of lightness and shade shifting about in incomprehensible ways. It was only later that it improved. I've since read that some of the powers-that-be at NASA were appalled when they saw those pictures. There they were spending billions to land a man on the Moon yet some penny-pincher had scrimped on what must have seemed at that moment to be was the most important item on board: the TV camera.)

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post Jul 25 2006, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (Stephen @ Jul 23 2006, 08:21 PM) *
...I've since read that some of the powers-that-be at NASA were appalled when they saw those pictures. There they were spending billions to land a man on the Moon yet some penny-pincher had scrimped on what must have seemed at that moment to be was the most important item on board: the TV camera.

We should feel lucky that there was a TV camera on board at all. There was considerable resistance to having a TV camera aboard the lander on the first landing, mostly from the Crew Systems Division people but also from a variety of mission planners. Their argument was that we were trying this very difficult operation for the very first time, and anything that wasn't absolutely essential to the mission of just landing, grabbing a few rocks and getting back into orbit was a complication that could spell disaster somehow. (In fact, there was seriously strong pressure for the first lunar EVA to be a one-person EVA, without using a PLSS but simply piping air, water and comm/electrical lines to the moonwalker via an umbilical.)

The question of carrying the TV camera finally came to a head in early 1969, at which time Deke Slayton (representing the astronauts) and the various officials of CSD sat down with MSC management and argued against it. Finally, Chris Kraft and Bob Gilruth got together and informed their various sub-managers that it was *incomprehensible* not to take a TV camera and share this historic event with the world. When faced with such strong opposition to their plans to try and quietly sink the TV camera on the first landings, those arguing for its deletion were silenced, and the camera was officially included on Apollo 11.

In general, though, the astronauts tended to view the TV cameras as an unwarranted intrusion into their work, and Father Slayton argued this position on their behalf to upper management. Fortunately for us, wiser heads prevailed.

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- hal_9000   Apollo 11 TV Tapes Go Missing   Jul 15 2006, 12:28 AM
- - DonPMitchell   Since no one mentioned it, I thought I'd point...   Jul 21 2006, 03:11 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Oh yes, I certainly did. I was a teenager in Engl...   Jul 21 2006, 03:25 AM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 03:25 A...   Jul 24 2006, 01:21 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   I audio taped much of the BBC TV Apollo coverage, ...   Jul 24 2006, 08:52 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Stephen @ Jul 23 2006, 08:21 PM) ....   Jul 25 2006, 03:18 PM
- - dvandorn   Yep -- thirty-seven years and thirty-eight minutes...   Jul 21 2006, 03:38 AM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 21 2006, 05:38 AM) ...   Jul 21 2006, 07:19 AM
- - elakdawalla   To my sadness I was born too late (1975) to witnes...   Jul 21 2006, 04:09 PM
- - djellison   I too missed the whole Apollo experience ( by 3 ye...   Jul 21 2006, 04:25 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 21 2006, 06:25 AM)...   Jul 21 2006, 04:43 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I think there's still plenty of exploration to...   Jul 21 2006, 05:05 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 07:05 A...   Jul 21 2006, 06:27 PM
- - Bill Harris   I was a college sophomore at Apollo 11 and remembe...   Jul 21 2006, 06:12 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jul 21 2006, 08:12 A...   Jul 21 2006, 06:31 PM
- - The Messenger   QUOTE (hal_9000 @ Jul 14 2006, 06:28 PM) ...   Jul 21 2006, 06:23 PM
- - dvandorn   My favorite site to visit would be the rim of Tych...   Jul 21 2006, 08:02 PM
- - tasp   According to the last issue of Air and Space magaz...   Jul 25 2006, 01:06 AM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (tasp @ Jul 25 2006, 01:06 AM) Acco...   Jul 25 2006, 02:55 AM
- - tasp   Sorry for not giving more info. September 2006 is...   Jul 25 2006, 02:43 PM
- - tasp   This is a pretty major thing, with the sample retu...   Jul 25 2006, 02:45 PM
- - ljk4-1   Just imagine how the lack of a lunar surface camer...   Jul 25 2006, 03:32 PM
|- - paulanderson   Just to get back on topic... what about the fact t...   Jul 25 2006, 04:49 PM
- - Astro0   About the missing tapes. It is one of the holy gr...   Jul 26 2006, 01:49 AM
- - climber   I was 15 when Neil & Buzz walked on the Moon. ...   Jul 26 2006, 09:18 AM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE New footage recently came to light through p...   Jul 31 2006, 03:28 PM
|- - Astro0   Astro0, are you in the group photo on the intro pa...   Aug 15 2006, 12:52 AM
- - djellison   Good Space.com article ( http://www.space.com/news...   Aug 13 2006, 05:05 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I have a finger in every pie. Talk about unhygien...   Aug 14 2006, 12:45 PM
|- - DDAVIS   A bit late but here is my annual Apollo related co...   Aug 14 2006, 05:26 PM
||- - David   QUOTE (DDAVIS @ Aug 14 2006, 05:26 PM) A ...   Aug 14 2006, 05:35 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Aug 14 2006, 04:45 A...   Aug 15 2006, 05:56 AM
- - nprev   Even more ominously and far less poetically, I am ...   Aug 15 2006, 05:53 AM
- - djellison   RH is nothing short of scum imho - and I'd rat...   Aug 15 2006, 07:24 AM
- - DonPMitchell   Just as an FYI, I was involved in a discussion of ...   Aug 15 2006, 08:29 AM
- - Sunspot   The story of the missing tapes has made its way to...   Aug 15 2006, 08:46 AM
- - ups   "A coalition of scientists and Nasa veterans ...   Aug 15 2006, 12:05 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Very interesting about Mr Thingy. I told that gan...   Aug 15 2006, 02:33 PM
- - Myran   QUOTE Sunspot wrote: The story of the missing tape...   Aug 15 2006, 07:14 PM
- - alan   It was just mentioned on Keith Olberman's show...   Aug 16 2006, 12:58 AM
- - ljk4-1   NASA Provides Further Update On Apollo 11 Tapes W...   Aug 16 2006, 02:58 PM
- - lyford   Pink Floyd to the rescue! (maybe...) One Sma...   Aug 21 2006, 04:27 AM
- - lyford   Tapes Found QUOTE Last week, up to 100 tapes, cle...   Nov 1 2006, 07:56 PM
|- - JTN   Doesn't sound like the found tapes are the one...   Nov 1 2006, 11:20 PM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (JTN @ Nov 2 2006, 10:20 AM) Doesn...   Nov 2 2006, 12:06 AM
- - nprev   Outrageous. What's even scarier is that mo...   Nov 2 2006, 01:54 AM
- - tasp   Ghastly if it turns out some one recorded episodes...   Nov 2 2006, 02:29 AM
- - dvandorn   "...That's one small step for... <buzz...   Nov 2 2006, 02:37 AM
- - nprev   ...or Arnold the pig oinks out "one giant lea...   Nov 2 2006, 05:38 AM
- - lyford   Apollo TV Tapes: The Search Continues QUOTE Vinta...   Nov 9 2006, 02:29 AM
- - nprev   You know, if this was at all analogous to the reco...   Nov 9 2006, 07:36 AM
- - MarkG   QUOTE You know, if this was at all analogous to th...   Jan 7 2007, 11:02 PM
- - nprev   Well, that's true. I still think that Isabella...   Jan 8 2007, 02:24 AM
- - ljk4-1   Wired article on the missing Apollo 11 tapes: htt...   Jan 10 2007, 04:59 PM


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