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Jul 19 2006, 06:07 PM
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Well, for those who really like RADAR SAR swaths, today is a good day for you. The T13 RADAR swath from April, THE ENTIRE SWATH, has been publically released on the Photojournal.
Titan (T13) Viewed by Cassini's Radar - April 30, 2006 http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA08552 PIA08604: Xanadu's Meandering Rivers http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA08604 PIA08605: Titan's Geological Goldmine - Radar Movie http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA08605 -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jul 24 2006, 06:14 PM
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Perron et al. have a paper in press with JGR-Planets entitled "Valley formation and methane precipitation rates on Titan" (407 Kb PDF preprint). They don't seem to think the Huygens DISR imagery shows any caverns, etc. Here's the relevant passage:
"In terrestrial environments where dissolution causes significant erosion, there is often morphologic evidence of subsurface erosion. Karst terrain, in which surface runoff and groundwater have eroded carbonate bedrock, contains caverns, closed depressions, and discontinuous surface streams [Summerfield, 1991]. Although the images obtained during the Huygens descent are probably a very limited sample of the erosion features on Titan’s surface, it is notable that there are no obvious karst-like features in the dendritic networks near the Huygens landing site." |
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Jul 24 2006, 08:39 PM
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"Although the images obtained during the Huygens descent are probably a very limited sample of the erosion features on Titan’s surface, it is notable that there are no obvious karst-like features in the dendritic networks near the Huygens landing site." That is not a strong argument. Try using Google Earth randomly and see how long it takes before you hit a spot with recognizable karst features in the river network. As a matter of fact many of the largest karst areas (e. g. Yucatan peninsula, Nullarbor plain) has no dendritic pattern since all water movement is underground. All you see is the occasional dolin or cenote. There might well be other karstification mechanisms on Titan than methane dissolving ice. Even here on Earth there are at least three kinds, ordinary karst where water and CO2 dissolves limestone, thermokarst where water dissolves ice and halokarst where water dissolves salt. The latter two are rare though. tty |
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volcanopele T13 RADAR SAR Swath Jul 19 2006, 06:07 PM
elakdawalla Wow! Thanks for the heads up!
They... Jul 19 2006, 06:30 PM
volcanopele The pixel scale is approximately 234 m/pixel. Jul 19 2006, 06:43 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 19 2006, 11:43 A... Jul 20 2006, 09:58 PM
volcanopele A few comments on some of the amazing features see... Jul 19 2006, 08:05 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 19 2006, 10:05 A... Jul 19 2006, 08:33 PM
tty QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 19 2006, 10:05 P... Jul 20 2006, 06:23 AM
Malmer is there a composite with all radar swaths so far? Jul 19 2006, 10:08 PM
paulanderson Cassini Reveals Titan's Xanadu Region To Be an... Jul 19 2006, 11:43 PM
Big_Gazza Wow... Two complete SAR swaths within the space of... Jul 20 2006, 12:31 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Jul 20 2006, 06:31 AM)... Jul 20 2006, 02:07 PM
AlexBlackwell Read Emily's interpretation. Jul 20 2006, 09:48 PM
paulanderson QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 20 2006, 02:48... Jul 21 2006, 06:57 PM
AlexBlackwell Lunine waxes poetic:
QUOTE "Although Titan g... Jul 20 2006, 10:28 PM
elakdawalla Indeed. Here's the source of the poetry, for ... Jul 21 2006, 12:17 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 20 2006, 02:17 P... Jul 21 2006, 12:40 AM
Phil Stooke Rille - well, glancing at ye olde OED confirms tha... Jul 21 2006, 01:06 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 03:06 A... Jul 21 2006, 04:50 PM
Phil Stooke "Interesting. My version of Webster's (Ne... Jul 21 2006, 05:00 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 07:00 A... Jul 21 2006, 05:05 PM
JRehling QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 10:00 A... Jul 21 2006, 07:15 PM
alan Interesting piece from New Scientist
QUOTE Titan m... Jul 23 2006, 12:11 AM
David QUOTE (alan @ Jul 23 2006, 12:11 AM) Inte... Jul 23 2006, 01:00 AM
Phil Stooke Caverns? That's pushing the interpretation a ... Jul 23 2006, 02:30 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 23 2006, 10:30 A... Jul 23 2006, 03:14 PM
jsheff Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think... Jul 23 2006, 05:55 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (jsheff @ Jul 23 2006, 10:55 AM) Co... Jul 24 2006, 05:33 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 24 2006, 01:33 P... Jul 24 2006, 05:40 PM
paulanderson QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 24 2006, 10:33 A... Jul 24 2006, 05:59 PM
ngunn If the surface of Titan is close to isostatic bala... Jul 24 2006, 10:21 AM
volcanopele I thought I remember reading that Ralph predicted ... Jul 24 2006, 05:47 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 24 2006, 07:47 A... Jul 24 2006, 05:57 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 24 2006, 01:47 P... Jul 24 2006, 06:01 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (tty @ Jul 24 2006, 10:39 AM) That ... Jul 24 2006, 08:50 PM
Douglas As everyone shares their thoughts on the images of... Jul 24 2006, 06:22 PM
AlexBlackwell Welcome to UMSF, Douglas Jul 24 2006, 06:23 PM
Douglas QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 24 2006, 11:23... Jul 24 2006, 06:37 PM
jsheff Right you are, Emily. On p. 155 of his book he dis... Jul 24 2006, 06:47 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (jsheff @ Jul 24 2006, 08:47 AM) Th... Jul 24 2006, 08:18 PM
Mariner9 While the radar passes show that the channels on T... Jul 24 2006, 09:25 PM
David QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Jul 24 2006, 09:25 PM) ... Jul 25 2006, 10:33 AM
edstrick ..."Mariner 4's flyby of Mars in 1965 com... Jul 25 2006, 08:36 AM
edstrick A "Titan Polar Orbiter" mission is likel... Jul 25 2006, 11:33 AM
paulanderson I found the Huygens image with the odd "hollo... Jul 26 2006, 06:38 AM
ustrax QUOTE (paulanderson @ Jul 26 2006, 07:38 ... Jul 26 2006, 08:22 AM
elakdawalla QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 24 2006, 10:33 A... Jul 26 2006, 10:45 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 26 2006, 06:45 P... Jul 27 2006, 01:29 AM
stevesliva Are large caverns compatible with the tidal forces... Jul 27 2006, 05:18 PM
paulanderson Do any of the geologists here have any thoughts ab... Jul 27 2006, 04:28 PM
Phil Stooke I hate to say it to a fellow Canadian, but Paul, y... Jul 27 2006, 04:48 PM
paulanderson QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 27 2006, 09:48 A... Jul 29 2006, 08:19 PM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (paulanderson @ Jul 29 2006, 02:19 ... Jul 29 2006, 08:55 PM
volcanopele If no one objects, I'd like to move some of th... Jul 27 2006, 05:16 PM
ngunn Here are some more thoughts on the bright, low den... Jul 31 2006, 11:23 AM
ngunn Exciting indeed. By the way Mike if you look just ... Oct 7 2007, 07:41 PM
Juramike Actually, I think you might've nailed it twice... Oct 7 2007, 09:09 PM
djellison Let me know which post numbers from this thread, o... Oct 8 2007, 03:59 PM
Rob Pinnegar Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, bu... Oct 8 2007, 05:54 PM
Mongo I recall posting on this topic a while ago (a coup... Oct 10 2007, 04:50 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Oct 8 2007, 01:54 P... Oct 10 2007, 07:25 PM
ngunn A big thanks for those papers, RL. Please post mor... Oct 11 2007, 09:02 AM
rlorenz QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 11 2007, 05:02 AM) A b... Oct 12 2007, 11:59 PM
Juramike I'm not sure that methane would be able to for... Oct 13 2007, 02:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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