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T13 RADAR SAR Swath
volcanopele
post Jul 19 2006, 06:07 PM
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Well, for those who really like RADAR SAR swaths, today is a good day for you. The T13 RADAR swath from April, THE ENTIRE SWATH, has been publically released on the Photojournal.

Titan (T13) Viewed by Cassini's Radar - April 30, 2006
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA08552

PIA08604: Xanadu's Meandering Rivers
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA08604

PIA08605: Titan's Geological Goldmine - Radar Movie
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA08605


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post Oct 13 2007, 02:46 AM
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I'm not sure that methane would be able to form a glacier (even hailstones stuck together will eventually melt).

But assuming that precipitation that comes down is not pure raindrops. That instead of a pure liquid, it is a droplet containing captured atmospheric chemistry products + methane. (I'll assume that the most of the materials are relatively insoluble and stay on the outside of the drop.) As the methane evaporates, the stuff makes a little crusty shell outside the drop.

[Check out: Lorenz, R Planet Space Sci. 41 (1993), 9, 647-655. "The life, death, and afterlife of a raindrop on Titan." Especially the part about "Ghost rain". I think that the rain does make it to the surface (possibly as hailstones), but then evaporates or percolates away, leaving a little residual shell on the surface. Anyone remember Mt. St. Helens ashfall-rains and the mess they made? - kinda like that.]

So the rainfall delivers organic products onto the surface. At the surface, these may be light and fluffy enough to form drifts. But down deep as the stuff piles up and up (over 100 meters!), once the structure is compacted, could the deposited organic gemish reform a structure that would begin to deform and creep?

How does a 100 meter thick mass of glycine behave at 93 K? How about acetylene or acetonitrile or any of the "higher" waxy hydrocarbons like butane or pentane? Could some of these segregate and squirt out of the mass and begin to flow?

If these exist on a big scale, they should be pretty obvious. (Smooth dark flows at originating the base or valleys of atmospheric deposits). Nothing seems to fit so far. So obvious glaciers are not currently seen on Titan (so far..)

And if there were glaciers of non-volatile/non-soluble stuff in the past, where did they go?

-Mike

[EDIT: One of the things that has been nagging me for quite a while is the "spooky dude" formation of the Huygens landing site. To my geocentric worldview, the upstream pointing parabolas are screaming "Moraine!" - but that is a topic that best fits the Huygens thread].


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- volcanopele   T13 RADAR SAR Swath   Jul 19 2006, 06:07 PM
- - elakdawalla   Wow! Thanks for the heads up! They...   Jul 19 2006, 06:30 PM
- - volcanopele   The pixel scale is approximately 234 m/pixel.   Jul 19 2006, 06:43 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 19 2006, 11:43 A...   Jul 20 2006, 09:58 PM
- - volcanopele   A few comments on some of the amazing features see...   Jul 19 2006, 08:05 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 19 2006, 10:05 A...   Jul 19 2006, 08:33 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 19 2006, 10:05 P...   Jul 20 2006, 06:23 AM
- - Malmer   is there a composite with all radar swaths so far?   Jul 19 2006, 10:08 PM
- - paulanderson   Cassini Reveals Titan's Xanadu Region To Be an...   Jul 19 2006, 11:43 PM
- - Big_Gazza   Wow... Two complete SAR swaths within the space of...   Jul 20 2006, 12:31 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Jul 20 2006, 06:31 AM)...   Jul 20 2006, 02:07 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Read Emily's interpretation.   Jul 20 2006, 09:48 PM
|- - paulanderson   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 20 2006, 02:48...   Jul 21 2006, 06:57 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Lunine waxes poetic: QUOTE "Although Titan g...   Jul 20 2006, 10:28 PM
- - elakdawalla   Indeed. Here's the source of the poetry, for ...   Jul 21 2006, 12:17 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 20 2006, 02:17 P...   Jul 21 2006, 12:40 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Rille - well, glancing at ye olde OED confirms tha...   Jul 21 2006, 01:06 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 03:06 A...   Jul 21 2006, 04:50 PM
- - Phil Stooke   "Interesting. My version of Webster's (Ne...   Jul 21 2006, 05:00 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 07:00 A...   Jul 21 2006, 05:05 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 21 2006, 10:00 A...   Jul 21 2006, 07:15 PM
- - alan   Interesting piece from New Scientist QUOTE Titan m...   Jul 23 2006, 12:11 AM
|- - David   QUOTE (alan @ Jul 23 2006, 12:11 AM) Inte...   Jul 23 2006, 01:00 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Caverns? That's pushing the interpretation a ...   Jul 23 2006, 02:30 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 23 2006, 10:30 A...   Jul 23 2006, 03:14 PM
- - jsheff   Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think...   Jul 23 2006, 05:55 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (jsheff @ Jul 23 2006, 10:55 AM) Co...   Jul 24 2006, 05:33 PM
|- - belleraphon1   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 24 2006, 01:33 P...   Jul 24 2006, 05:40 PM
|- - paulanderson   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 24 2006, 10:33 A...   Jul 24 2006, 05:59 PM
- - ngunn   If the surface of Titan is close to isostatic bala...   Jul 24 2006, 10:21 AM
- - volcanopele   I thought I remember reading that Ralph predicted ...   Jul 24 2006, 05:47 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 24 2006, 07:47 A...   Jul 24 2006, 05:57 PM
|- - belleraphon1   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 24 2006, 01:47 P...   Jul 24 2006, 06:01 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Perron et al. have a paper in press with JGR-Plane...   Jul 24 2006, 06:14 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 24 2006, 08:14...   Jul 24 2006, 08:39 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (tty @ Jul 24 2006, 10:39 AM) That ...   Jul 24 2006, 08:50 PM
- - Douglas   As everyone shares their thoughts on the images of...   Jul 24 2006, 06:22 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   Welcome to UMSF, Douglas   Jul 24 2006, 06:23 PM
|- - Douglas   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 24 2006, 11:23...   Jul 24 2006, 06:37 PM
- - jsheff   Right you are, Emily. On p. 155 of his book he dis...   Jul 24 2006, 06:47 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (jsheff @ Jul 24 2006, 08:47 AM) Th...   Jul 24 2006, 08:18 PM
- - Mariner9   While the radar passes show that the channels on T...   Jul 24 2006, 09:25 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Jul 24 2006, 09:25 PM) ...   Jul 25 2006, 10:33 AM
- - edstrick   ..."Mariner 4's flyby of Mars in 1965 com...   Jul 25 2006, 08:36 AM
- - edstrick   A "Titan Polar Orbiter" mission is likel...   Jul 25 2006, 11:33 AM
- - paulanderson   I found the Huygens image with the odd "hollo...   Jul 26 2006, 06:38 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (paulanderson @ Jul 26 2006, 07:38 ...   Jul 26 2006, 08:22 AM
- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 24 2006, 10:33 A...   Jul 26 2006, 10:45 PM
|- - belleraphon1   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 26 2006, 06:45 P...   Jul 27 2006, 01:29 AM
|- - stevesliva   Are large caverns compatible with the tidal forces...   Jul 27 2006, 05:18 PM
- - paulanderson   Do any of the geologists here have any thoughts ab...   Jul 27 2006, 04:28 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I hate to say it to a fellow Canadian, but Paul, y...   Jul 27 2006, 04:48 PM
|- - paulanderson   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 27 2006, 09:48 A...   Jul 29 2006, 08:19 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (paulanderson @ Jul 29 2006, 02:19 ...   Jul 29 2006, 08:55 PM
- - volcanopele   If no one objects, I'd like to move some of th...   Jul 27 2006, 05:16 PM
- - ngunn   Here are some more thoughts on the bright, low den...   Jul 31 2006, 11:23 AM
- - ngunn   Exciting indeed. By the way Mike if you look just ...   Oct 7 2007, 07:41 PM
- - Juramike   Actually, I think you might've nailed it twice...   Oct 7 2007, 09:09 PM
- - djellison   Let me know which post numbers from this thread, o...   Oct 8 2007, 03:59 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, bu...   Oct 8 2007, 05:54 PM
|- - Mongo   I recall posting on this topic a while ago (a coup...   Oct 10 2007, 04:50 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Oct 8 2007, 01:54 P...   Oct 10 2007, 07:25 PM
- - ngunn   A big thanks for those papers, RL. Please post mor...   Oct 11 2007, 09:02 AM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 11 2007, 05:02 AM) A b...   Oct 12 2007, 11:59 PM
- - Juramike   I'm not sure that methane would be able to for...   Oct 13 2007, 02:46 AM


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