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Jul 24 2006, 09:33 PM
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Much to my surprise, a chunk of the T16 Sar swath as been released:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA08630 An abundance of lakes can been seen. Some appear to be crater lakes (or sinkholes), like the lake at far left on the top cutout. That lake appears similar to Crater Lake in Oregon, with a little island in the middle (you can kinda see the attenuation of the signal surrounding the island as the methane gets deeper). Some lakes appear quite distinctive from the surrounding terrain, like the features on the right part of the bottom cutout. -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jul 28 2006, 08:25 AM
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I’m a little puzzled by the latest News Release on the T16 RADAR swath:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/press-rele....cfm?newsID=679 Cassini scientist are now quite confident that at least some of the radar dark spots are indeed lakes (which is great!). They further state that “the lakes are most likely the source of hydrocarbon smog in the frigid moon's atmosphere”. I thought that the hydrocarbon smog was generally hypothesized to originiate from organic molecules formed by photodissociation of methane in Titan’s upper atmosphere. So do they presume that the hydrocarbon smog comes indirectly from methane evaporating from the polar lakes and thus replenishing Titan's methane atmosphere? Are these comparatively small lakes really sufficient to replenish the atmospheric methane? At the northern hemisphere, they seem to be quite restricted the latitudes above 75 degrees. Furthermore, some of these “lakes” appear to be only partly wet at the moment and probably do not harbor large quantities of liquid methane. Isn’t it still more likely that methane from Titan’s interior (released by cryovolcanoes, low temperature serpentinization, whatever) prevents the atmospheric methane depletion? At least, there is some circumstantial evidence for volcanic activity, like the detection of 40Ar by Huygens’ GCMS. |
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Jul 28 2006, 09:04 AM
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I’m a little puzzled by the latest News Release on the T16 RADAR swath: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/press-rele....cfm?newsID=679 Cassini scientist are now quite confident that at least some of the radar dark spots are indeed lakes (which is great!). They further state that “the lakes are most likely the source of hydrocarbon smog in the frigid moon's atmosphere”. That statement caught my eye, too. I think that's stretching it a bit. The lakes contain methane which in turn evaporates into the atmosphere where it's broken down by UV light to produce smog. So technically, they are the source of the smog (not a direct source, though!). The wording is a bit awkward. I agree with you on the point of lakes being just a temporary reservoir of methane, cryovolcanism is probably the mechanism by which Titan's methane is replenished. Without it, the lakes would eventually all dry up because all methane would be destroyed on a fairly short timescale. That is, unless there's actually a vast reservoir of methane hiding below the surface. The question would then be: where'd THAT come from? -------------------- |
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volcanopele T16 RADAR SAR Swath Jul 24 2006, 09:33 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 24 2006, 11:33 A... Jul 24 2006, 09:39 PM
JRehling QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 24 2006, 02:39... Jul 25 2006, 03:25 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 24 2006, 05:25 PM) ... Jul 25 2006, 06:15 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 25 2006, 11:15... Aug 1 2006, 04:42 PM
JRehling QUOTE (volcanopele @ Aug 1 2006, 09:42 AM... Aug 8 2006, 05:51 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (JRehling @ Aug 8 2006, 10:51 AM) D... Aug 8 2006, 06:26 PM
Sunspot QUOTE (volcanopele @ Aug 8 2006, 07:26 PM... Aug 8 2006, 09:56 PM
volcanopele Was that me? I forget now
But to be honest, the... Jul 24 2006, 09:42 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 24 2006, 11:42 A... Jul 24 2006, 09:45 PM
ugordan Wow, this is it!
Finally here we have a body ... Jul 24 2006, 09:47 PM
David This is fantastic stuff. I'd be even happier ... Jul 24 2006, 09:48 PM
djellison The largest body in the top right actually has som... Jul 24 2006, 09:59 PM
The Messenger Can it be stated with certainty that these are not... Jul 24 2006, 10:02 PM
volcanopele They do get radiometry at the same time they acqui... Jul 24 2006, 10:20 PM
belleraphon1 To quote Emily from her Planetary Society blog
... Jul 24 2006, 11:18 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (belleraphon1 @ Jul 24 2006, 01:18 ... Jul 25 2006, 01:23 AM
David QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 25 2006, 01:23... Jul 25 2006, 01:25 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (David @ Jul 24 2006, 03:25 PM) Whe... Jul 25 2006, 01:30 AM
JRehling QUOTE (David @ Jul 24 2006, 06:25 PM) Als... Jul 25 2006, 11:45 AM
David QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 25 2006, 11:45 AM) ... Jul 25 2006, 12:00 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (David @ Jul 25 2006, 06:00 AM) Hm.... Jul 25 2006, 01:35 PM

ljk4-1 QUOTE (The Messenger @ Jul 25 2006, 09:35... Jul 25 2006, 01:53 PM
JRehling QUOTE (David @ Jul 25 2006, 05:00 AM) Hm.... Jul 25 2006, 03:36 PM
Rob Pinnegar Okay. Let's assume that these are lakes.
The... Jul 24 2006, 11:31 PM
belleraphon1 Agree here with Rob...
Close up monitoring of th... Jul 24 2006, 11:50 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Now Titan is even more interesting than before, an... Jul 25 2006, 12:26 AM
JRehling QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Jul 24 2006, 05:26... Jul 25 2006, 03:37 AM
qraal Hi All
Lacustrine wannabes at last!
QUOTE (J... Jul 25 2006, 11:36 AM

Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (qraal @ Jul 25 2006, 11:36 AM) Has... Jul 25 2006, 11:38 AM

AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Jul 25 2006, 01:38... Jul 25 2006, 05:43 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 24 2006, 10:37 PM) ... Jul 25 2006, 07:08 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Jul 25 200... Jul 25 2006, 09:09 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jul 25 2006, 04:09... Jul 25 2006, 09:37 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Jul 25 200... Jul 25 2006, 09:43 PM
Decepticon Does this radar swath go over the north pole?
I... Jul 25 2006, 01:00 AM
volcanopele Unfortunately, it is very difficult to search for ... Jul 25 2006, 02:08 AM
volcanopele Note: South is up in both cutouts in the release, ... Jul 25 2006, 02:19 AM
Olvegg And what about translucency of luiqud for radar be... Jul 25 2006, 05:08 PM
Myran When UMSF got so slow yesterday I wondered if some... Jul 25 2006, 09:00 PM
Matt Just imagine what it would be like to be walking t... Jul 25 2006, 10:07 PM
Stu QUOTE (Matt @ Jul 25 2006, 10:07 PM) Just... Jul 25 2006, 10:19 PM

JRehling In terms of Titanian skygazing, note that the rati... Jul 25 2006, 10:41 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Matt @ Jul 25 2006, 12:07 PM) Just... Jul 25 2006, 10:22 PM
tty QUOTE (ugordan @ Jul 28 2006, 11:04 AM) T... Jul 28 2006, 10:33 AM
angel1801 Just one simple question. When will we able to see... Aug 8 2006, 02:55 PM
volcanopele Best case scenario would probably be in October, e... Aug 8 2006, 02:59 PM
Sunspot QUOTE (volcanopele @ Aug 8 2006, 03:59 PM... Aug 8 2006, 06:17 PM
Big_Gazza QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 26 2006, 08:41 AM) ... Aug 9 2006, 02:59 AM
Thorsten QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Aug 9 2006, 04:59 AM) ... Aug 9 2006, 06:19 AM
Bill Harris I wonder how long twilight lasts on Titan? On Ear... Aug 9 2006, 01:02 PM
JRehling QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Aug 9 2006, 06:02 AM... Aug 9 2006, 03:10 PM
Rob Pinnegar More importantly, Titan turns on its axis only onc... Aug 9 2006, 05:53 PM
ngunn Bill's question is interesting. As he refers ... Aug 10 2006, 09:57 AM
Matt Anybody know anything about T17 yet?
It sounds li... Aug 27 2006, 10:30 AM
Thorsten Apologies if this has been posted before, but ther... Aug 31 2006, 11:57 AM![]() ![]() |
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