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Aug 6 2006, 04:44 PM
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Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 15-January 05 Member No.: 149 |
I've contributed nothing to this brilliant site, but I've followed since before the MER landings. It's obvious that there are many contibutors who, even if they are amateurs, are doing image analysis and presentation work that exceeds the quality of the pros.
I imagine (fervently hope, actually) that some of the UMSF posters will be putting together book projects of their work. If any such book is on the way, I hope that we on this forum will hear about it first. I would LOVE to have a glossy coffee table book of the images I've seen here, especially one signed by the author(s). |
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Aug 7 2006, 06:45 AM
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![]() Director of Galilean Photography ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
aTMS.pdf ( 695.34K )
Number of downloads: 455It's just something I've been working on and off the last few weeks, since I'm also image-processing-challenged, and can contribute in other ways. Once I get some real free time, I'd like to go back to the beginning of UMSF and collect all the best work. I have no permission on any of these, so kindly consider it more a mental exercise for now. If you do not want me including your work, LMK, and I'll remove it. I plan on getting individual approval for each artist "later on." It's created with Blurb's software. Their pricing is not too bad for the small quantities we'd be interested in, with a 40 page hardcover book at $30 and a 440 page hardcover book for $80, including custom dust cover, which are pages 1-5 in the PDF. 1-back inside, 2-back, 3-spine, 4-front cover, 5-inside front. One thing I'm fuzzy about is how books are "released" into the wild. Anyways, it makes for a nice weekend hobby. The book is 10x8, so a 2 page photo is 20x8, or 2.5 aspect ratio, which works well for our panoramas. McMurdo Pan is 22780x4496, or ~5 aspect ratio, making it perfect for 4 pages. I'm contemplating adding sranderson's "Standing on the Fringes of Creation" as a possible subtitle. Love to hear any comments and suggestions. In other news, I know that Phil Stooke and Doug Ellison have confirmed they are working on books. Can't recall anyone else. -------------------- Space Enthusiast Richard Hendricks
-- "The engineers, as usual, made a tremendous fuss. Again as usual, they did the job in half the time they had dismissed as being absolutely impossible." --Rescue Party, Arthur C Clarke Mother Nature is the final inspector of all quality. |
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Aug 7 2006, 07:12 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Hendric, sounds great and looks even better!
(I do not see some pictures, is my PC or is it real?) -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Aug 7 2006, 07:20 PM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14457 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I'm spending my days looking after this place and setting up my new office so that when the sad day comes...(i.e. we wave goodnight to the rovers) I can begin in earnest to do them justice on paper.
I also hope that that means I will be able to include a HiRISE derived route map from which people will be able to cross reference and understand the geography and terrain. Doug |
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Aug 7 2006, 07:48 PM
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![]() Director of Galilean Photography ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
Dilo, there are some blank pages that don't have pictures, notably the first pages for the Spirit and Opportunity sections. Taking suggestions!
-------------------- Space Enthusiast Richard Hendricks
-- "The engineers, as usual, made a tremendous fuss. Again as usual, they did the job in half the time they had dismissed as being absolutely impossible." --Rescue Party, Arthur C Clarke Mother Nature is the final inspector of all quality. |
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Aug 8 2006, 05:28 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Central California Member No.: 45 |
Personally, I'd like to see some of the powerpoint presentations some of you have created to share with the public, I'm sure they'd be exciting for us too.
-------------------- Eric P / MizarKey
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Aug 8 2006, 06:48 AM
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Hendric the price You mentioned ( US $ 80 for a 440 pages Hardcover book is very good ) ... and I 100% agree with Doug that a route map for each rover must be added, may be as a fold-out so readers can check the photos against the Mars map which will give a lot of sence to ' just a photobook '
Anyway I have been writing articles on MER starting 6 months before the landing and every 6 months since for the British Interplanetary Society' monthly magazine spaceflight, so if any introductory text would be needed I'm glad to help ... Looking forward to this book but hoping that the rovers will stay alive to celebrate 3 ( Earth ) years on the red planet Philip CORNEILLE |
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Aug 10 2006, 10:41 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
Hi Hendric. Nice idea for the book.
Just a quick edit note. In the PDF, page 5 of 15 - the UMSF BBQ image was created by Astro0 (me) NB: As noted above by others, there were a few photos that didn't show up in the downloaded PDF. Fantastic start. More! More! Astro0 |
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Aug 13 2006, 09:21 PM
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![]() Chief Assistant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1409 Joined: 5-January 05 From: Ierapetra, Greece Member No.: 136 |
-------------------- photographer, space imagery enthusiast, proud father and partner, and geek.
http://500px.com/sacred-photons & |
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Aug 14 2006, 04:49 PM
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![]() Director of Galilean Photography ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
Astro0: Thanks for the corrections, I'll get those done ASAP.
PhilCo126: Thanks for the offer. I might need some introductory text for each "chapter". I also want some words for the "Final Words" chapter. Something about how the project has touched us all and what Spirit and Opportunity currently are doing. But that won't be needed for months, more than likely. PS. I recommend everyone go back sometime and look through some of those old images. It is amazing looking back at when Spirit and Opportunity were just but babes on Mars, taking baby steps. Doug's picture of Spirit looking at her IDD in color, it almost brought tears to my eyes. How far we've come. PPS. Doug, I really really really hope you decide not to get rid or limit the older pictures. I still feel they make for an important history, of umsf.com at least. PPPS. If anyone has any pictures they generated or favorites from the first 2 months of both rovers, I would appreciate pointers. I'm looking for pictures done by or modified somehow by UMSF'ers. Thanks. -------------------- Space Enthusiast Richard Hendricks
-- "The engineers, as usual, made a tremendous fuss. Again as usual, they did the job in half the time they had dismissed as being absolutely impossible." --Rescue Party, Arthur C Clarke Mother Nature is the final inspector of all quality. |
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Aug 15 2006, 08:33 AM
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![]() Director of Galilean Photography ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
Here's another brilliant idea I just had...How about a flipbook section with the Mars dust-devils??? I don't think there are any UMSF-sourced movies, but I just can't resist spending 20 pages on this one:
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~lemmon/mer_dd/...hanced_568a.gif The format I would use is one with 2 pictures on the right, with words next to them. This way we could do 2 or three other short DD movies in the other spot, and a couple of our DD colorizations. What do you guys think? Lame waste of paper for B&W movies you could download, or just totally wicked? PM me with your realworldemail if you want to see the current WIP. Blank pages are probably blank on purpose. I haven't picked out yet quintessential images for the rover sections. Taking suggestions! -------------------- Space Enthusiast Richard Hendricks
-- "The engineers, as usual, made a tremendous fuss. Again as usual, they did the job in half the time they had dismissed as being absolutely impossible." --Rescue Party, Arthur C Clarke Mother Nature is the final inspector of all quality. |
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Sep 15 2006, 09:27 AM
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Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 22-December 05 Member No.: 616 |
Excellent ideas but what is the status on the projectSSS ?
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Sep 15 2006, 05:49 PM
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![]() Director of Galilean Photography ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
Unfortunately, RL intrudes. I think I need to just take a week off, download and sort the pictures, and then add them into the book format. I've been downloading and adding a picture at a time, which isn't scaling well.
-------------------- Space Enthusiast Richard Hendricks
-- "The engineers, as usual, made a tremendous fuss. Again as usual, they did the job in half the time they had dismissed as being absolutely impossible." --Rescue Party, Arthur C Clarke Mother Nature is the final inspector of all quality. |
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Sep 16 2006, 08:38 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1621 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
Yes, very good idea.
If you want, you can take all the pictures you want in my gallery of my website to illustrate the book -------------------- |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Nov 12 2006, 03:17 PM
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For a very brief moment on Amazon.co.uk I believed the MER book was already published :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Postcards-Mars-Fir...TF8&s=books |
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Nov 12 2006, 03:33 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 563 Joined: 29-March 05 Member No.: 221 |
Crikey, i forgot i ordered that book. Hmm looks like it was published, i wonder why i haven't received my copy yet.
Update: I've just checked amazon, i ordered it on the 17th July, they have the following delivery estimate: 22 Nov 2006 - 24 Nov 2006 |
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Nov 12 2006, 03:35 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Crikey, i forgot i ordered that book. Hmm looks like it was published, i wonder why i haven't received my copy yet. I ordered mine from Amazon (UK) on Nov 1st and since then my delivery date has been pushed back twice because of "delays with the publishers". Latest estimate plucked out of the Amazon bingo machine is between the 14th and 22nd of Nov... -------------------- |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Nov 12 2006, 04:43 PM
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Postcards from Mars looks like to be a nice sized book at about 12 X 12 inches ( 35 by 35 centimeters ) ... Doug any idea yet which size of book You would like to produce ?
As a reminder, book sizes are: Coffee Table - A book that is up to 50.0 cm.[20"] tall. Folio - A book that is up to 36.5 cm.[15"] tall. 4to- A book that is up to 30.5 cm.[12" tall]. [Quarto] 8vo - A book that is up to 24.5 cm.[9 ¾"] tall. [Octavo] 12mo - A book that is up to 19.5 cm.[7 ¾"] tall. [Duodecimo] 16mo - A book that is up to 17 cm.[6 ¾"] tall. [Sextodecimo] 24mo - A book that is up to 14.5 cm.[5 ¾"] tall. 32mo - A book that is up to 12.5 cm.[5"] tall. 48mo - A book that is up to 10 cm. [4"] tall. |
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Nov 12 2006, 04:48 PM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14457 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I'd like to go the same as Full Moon...but I'm not even thinking about it till the rovers quit ( a terrible thought, but a realistic one )
Doug |
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Nov 13 2006, 10:32 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Florida & Texas, USA Member No.: 482 |
I'd like to go the same as Full Moon...but I'm not even thinking about it till the rovers quit ( a terrible thought, but a realistic one ) Doug Call me impatient By this time, Phoenix will be on her way and HiRISE should have streamlined the image-release process and begin stunning us with weekly vistas to capture our imagination... so even with MER still an active mission, it will be vying for attention against new missions. Spirit and Oppy will likely not have anything new "macro" vistas to present to the armchair observer for at least 300 Sols. So unless it's important for the Coffee Table book to have an Epitaph chapter for "closure" |
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Nov 13 2006, 10:41 PM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14457 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
One could have made the same statement about Spirit once it reached the Summit of husband hill.....
No - to tell the pictorial story of the MER mission - you have to tell the FULL story - from start, to FINISH. It's hard enough to get a single book published, let alone a book + a second edition. Doug |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Nov 14 2006, 05:46 PM
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Marz, sorry but I believe Doug is right ...
It's pretty difficult getting a book published so Doug should go for a FULL edition ... We can help by pre-ordering the book so the publisher/printer is easier convinced to get the project started. Doug You can always contact me off-forum to swap ideas... Post Scriptum: What would the title be ... FULL MARS ? |
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| Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Nov 16 2006, 08:20 PM
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Talking about Mars books, feel free to check my weblog:
http://mars-literature.skynetblogs.be/ |
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