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Aug 7 2006, 12:58 PM
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Aug 8 2006, 03:59 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
It should be beautiful, but the pieces are slow to come down. I wonder if something is delaying them.
-------------------- ...Tom
I'm not a Space Fan, I'm a Space Exploration Enthusiast. |
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Aug 8 2006, 06:01 AM
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Well - no night time UHF passes ( Oppy has to deep sleep to save that 100Whr/sol ) - but they saved up on spare flash memory to take the whole thing...it'll come down..it'll just take a while.
As of now - it's all been taken - and tomorrow is a drive sol. CODE Beagle: Full frame and downsampled: Number Number Number on Ground Fraction Sol Seq.Ver Requested Taken (full) Downlinked Description --- ------- --------- ------ --------- ---------- ----------- 900 p2289.04 64 64 31 0.48 pancam_beagle_pt_1_L257R2 900 p2290.04 32 32 0 0 pancam_beagle_pt_2_L257R2 901 p2291.04 68 68 0 0 pancam_beagle_pt_3_L257R2 901 p2292.04 28 28 0 0 pancam_beagle_pt_4_L257R2 902 p2293.04 60 0 0 0 pancam_beagle_pt_5_L257R2 Total 252 192 31 0.16 Doug |
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Aug 8 2006, 11:26 AM
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Aug 8 2006, 11:45 AM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14457 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Aug 14 2006, 11:14 PM
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Aug 14 2006, 11:33 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 3-June 06 From: the jungle of Nool Member No.: 799 |
Er, I just remembered the funny little movement on sol 904. The movement occurred just before the right side of the pan was done -- so there may be a major problem in stitching this panorama using autostitch. I will try PTAssembler and see what it looks like.
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Aug 15 2006, 12:56 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4271 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Horton, thanks for the pan - I was looking forward to a full 360!
I have to say that we actually didn't move at all on sol 904 - compare the position of the sundial relative to the ground in this sol 901 view with this sol 905 view. The view from the navcam sol 904 looked like it had changed a bit, but that must've just been due to the change in pointing angle and the inherent geometrical distortions in the cameras. |
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Aug 15 2006, 03:36 AM
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Aug 27 2006, 10:45 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 270 Joined: 29-December 04 From: NLA0: Member No.: 133 |
My final version:
Full 360 degrees: http://paranoid.dechengst.nl/mars/Beagle%2...lor%20final.jpg (9.0 MB) For the bandwith impared a crop of just Beagle Crater: http://paranoid.dechengst.nl/mars/Beagle%2...lor%20final.jpg (3.9 MB) EDIT: Removed the noise in the sky by using the paintbucket tool in Photoshop, also filled in the black parts of the sky. -------------------- PDP, VAX and Alpha fanatic ; HP-Compaq is the Satan! ; Let us pray daily while facing Maynard! ; Life starts at 150 km/h ;
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Aug 28 2006, 06:07 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Nice work, guys. I liked this panorama so much that I tried it too, but no matter what I tried I could not force Autostitch to completely mend that tear hortonheardawho mentioned. I did manage to minimize it to only one column, and I learned a thing or two about Autostitch in the process, so I guess it wasn't a total waste of several hours.
DeChengst: I really like your colors. You seem to have come very close to what I expect the color will look like after we get the calibrated images. hortonheardawho: How the heck did you so nicely correct for those missing pieces of data that cause the annoying yellow, cyan, and magenta rectangles? That was a nice touch. In order to present something different, here is a polar projection of my panorama done with Indian3000's MRC Polar Transform module. Looking at Beagle in all of it's glorious detail, I couldn't help but notice a number of radial fractures extending through the rim that seem to be filled with some dark mineralization. The most obvious one is just in fornt of and to the left of the rover's position. Then, there is that curious rounded bulge of bedrock inside the crater toward the right. I think we saw similar bulges in Endurance and I always wondered if they could be due to some kind of rebound phenomenon. -------------------- ...Tom
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Aug 28 2006, 06:53 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Er, I just remembered the funny little movement on sol 904. The movement occurred just before the right side of the pan was done -- so there may be a major problem in stitching this panorama using autostitch. I will try PTAssembler and see what it looks like. Nice work, guys. I liked this panorama so much that I tried it too, but no matter what I tried I could not force Autostitch to completely mend that tear hortonheardawho mentioned. I did manage to minimize it to only one column, and I learned a thing or two about Autostitch in the process, so I guess it wasn't a total waste of several hours. What the heck are you guys talking about!? I was away when this pan was being taken but there is no motion according to the tracking database for sol 904 and I am not having any problems matching things up. Actually I did have a little bit more of a problem getting the horizon sorted and level than usual - but nothing major - all sorted now I hope Does anyone know what Horton ment by "the funny little movement on sol 904"? Should have my version out soon... James -------------------- |
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Aug 28 2006, 08:59 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Here you go - my version.
I'm on a narrow band connection today so you'll have to wait till tomorrow for the full res version. Enjoy, James -------------------- |
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Aug 28 2006, 11:43 AM
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Aug 28 2006, 04:47 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 270 Joined: 29-December 04 From: NLA0: Member No.: 133 |
Nice work, guys. I liked this panorama so much that I tried it too, but no matter what I tried I could not force Autostitch to completely mend that tear hortonheardawho mentioned. I got the same problem with Autostitch. I downloaded a lot of panorama software and I found that only PTGui can do panorama's this large right. A lot of software doesn't even manage to come close to a good stitch and just produces utter nonsense. Some programs find the right way to stitch but offer to little control to get a satisfying final result. Truly warped and wavy horizons aren't my cup of tea for example. QUOTE DEChengst: I really like your colors. You seem to have come very close to what I expect the color will look like after we get the calibrated images. I certainly hope so and the good thing is that you just like me need to know nothing about color correction. I just use a quick and dirty trick to get the colors. What I did was select the frame with the best looking colors as the anchor image for color correction in PTGui. I loaded the finished panorama into Photoshop and used a calibrated true color image provided by NASA/JPL as a source for the "Match Color" option. Things I would like to improve next time: My horizon is just acceptable. I want to get a real flat horizon next time. The version of PTGui I used is quite old as it's one that still allows for a full 30 days trial mode instead of the limited watermarked trial the newer versions are. This older version introduces several problems: It's slow. Real slow. Stitching took almost 13 hours. Also the panorama editor window updates very slowly. Getting the horizon correct is almost impossible this way. Using the color correction introduces noise into bright and dark areas. Some parts of the horizon don't look very good for example. I'll probably paintbucket the horizon in Photoshop tonight. It uses a lot of diskspace. It took about 40 GB of space on my HDD. The last version estimates it will only take 4 GB Problem is I don't have a credit card -------------------- PDP, VAX and Alpha fanatic ; HP-Compaq is the Satan! ; Let us pray daily while facing Maynard! ; Life starts at 150 km/h ;
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Aug 28 2006, 07:26 PM
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Aug 28 2006, 09:25 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
-------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Aug 28 2006, 11:52 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
I'm on a narrow band connection today so you'll have to wait till tomorrow for the full res version. Full resolution version is now online. -------------------- |
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Aug 29 2006, 05:15 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
One of these days I should get some real panorama software. I'll probably never achieve the geometric precision and color perfection that you pros regularly turn out. I only like to hang out with the experts to pick up little tips here and there. I mainly use the panoramas and other image wizardry as utilitarian tools for making geologic observations, and often perfection is not necessary for that. Still, there is a latent artistic fragment of my brain that has always wanted to create beautiful images. Perhaps one day I will surprise myself. In the meantime, if no one minds me tagging along, I'll try to pick up whatever crumbs I can find along the way.
-------------------- ...Tom
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Aug 29 2006, 07:25 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
Full resolution version is now online. Lovely mosaic, James. Here some projections: Obviusly, vertical projection over a plane makes beagle strongly distorted... -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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