On a ring origin of the equatorial ridge of Iapetus |
On a ring origin of the equatorial ridge of Iapetus |
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Aug 29 2006, 06:18 PM
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Wing Ip just had an interesting Iapetus-related paper published in GRL.
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Aug 29 2006, 07:06 PM
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Would this process also explain the albedo assymetry on Iapetus?
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Sep 10 2006, 01:35 AM
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Would this process also explain the albedo assymetry on Iapetus? The dark staining on portions of Iapetus might be attributed to gaseous materials containing perhaps hydrogen, nitrogen, and carbon being introduced into the Iapetan vicinity at a fixed segment of it's orbit about Saturn. Let's assume for the moment, that atmospheric leakage from Titan only encounters Iapetus when Iapetus encounters the Saturnian magnetotail as it traverses the far side of Saturn. What would we see? We might expect a very tenuous cloud of N2 and CH4 to persist around Iapetus for a while before it dissipates into the void. What does the Titanian atmospheric constituents do when exposed to solar radiation of sufficient intensity? They apparently tholinize. Where do the necessary conditions for this occur on Iapetus? The leading hemisphere, and within 40 to 50 degrees of the equator. Also, north and south of of that zone, crater bowls with appropriate slopes on their poleward sides will also collect and intensify the distant suns flux, causing dark spots outside the main 'blotch'. Is this what we see? I will suggest we do. Aparently in the roughly 40 days till Iapetus passes between the sun and Saturn, the gas dissipates completely, or is tholinized completely (actually both processes probably occur together) so as Iapetus continues on around Saturn back around to the far side, that hemisphere now sunward doesn't darken. Would we expect this wafting gas in the Saturnian system to evince itself anywhere else? Perhaps the dark crater bottoms of Hyperion are dark for the same reason as Cassini Regio? The gas ponds in the craters, the distant sun is roughly focused by the crater walls and makes a warm enough spot for the gas to tholinize. Why do all the crater bottoms of Hyperion seem to be dark? Hyperions' chaotic rotation eventually aims all its' craters sunward at one time or another, so they all darken. BTW, there is one largish crater, seen clearly by Cassini, with a broken rim. It did not form much of a dark spot at all, perhaps because that crater cannot pond gas to tholinize as it runs out downslope . . . . |
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AlexBlackwell On a ring origin of the equatorial ridge of Iapetus Aug 29 2006, 06:18 PM
volcanopele okay, now a ring around Iaptetus is an interesting... Aug 29 2006, 06:20 PM
AlexBlackwell Here's an interesting passage from the conclud... Aug 29 2006, 06:25 PM
Michael Capobianco Does the paper address why the equatorial ridge do... Aug 29 2006, 06:40 PM
David QUOTE (Michael Capobianco @ Aug 29 2006, 06... Aug 29 2006, 07:05 PM
Decepticon QUOTE (Michael Capobianco @ Aug 29 2006, 02... Aug 29 2006, 11:56 PM
JRehling Roughly speaking, I guess the fact that the ridge ... Aug 30 2006, 01:07 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Michael Capobianco @ Aug 29 2006, 08... Aug 29 2006, 07:44 PM
tasp An object skimming the surface of Iapetus will hav... Aug 30 2006, 05:11 AM
AlexBlackwell There was a brief blurb about this paper yesterday... Aug 30 2006, 07:53 PM
Rob Pinnegar I guess this idea probably originated with those i... Aug 30 2006, 09:41 PM
tasp QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Aug 30 2006, 04:41 ... Aug 30 2006, 11:29 PM
dvandorn Does Iapetus' ridge have to have been created ... Aug 31 2006, 12:04 AM
tasp Maintaining focus (or collimation) of the strand ... Aug 31 2006, 03:02 AM
David I think I understand the idea to be one of a low-v... Aug 31 2006, 07:23 AM
ngunn Under the scenario proposed I would expect volatil... Aug 31 2006, 10:00 AM
ugordan QUOTE (ngunn @ Aug 31 2006, 11:00 AM) Cou... Aug 31 2006, 11:18 AM
ngunn QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 31 2006, 12:18 PM) M... Aug 31 2006, 11:50 AM
ugordan The point I was trying to make is the greatest tem... Aug 31 2006, 12:08 PM
ngunn QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 31 2006, 01:08 PM) A... Aug 31 2006, 12:38 PM
ngunn One other point - the 'catastrophic atmosphere... Aug 31 2006, 01:06 PM
tasp Invoking an atmosphere above a certain very low de... Aug 31 2006, 01:27 PM
ngunn QUOTE (tasp @ Aug 31 2006, 02:27 PM) Invo... Aug 31 2006, 02:01 PM
The Messenger QUOTE (tasp @ Aug 31 2006, 07:27 AM) I al... Sep 3 2006, 11:22 PM
ngunn QUOTE (The Messenger @ Sep 4 2006, 12:22 ... Sep 4 2006, 10:13 AM

The Messenger QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 4 2006, 04:13 AM) Why?... Sep 6 2006, 03:21 AM

ngunn QUOTE (The Messenger @ Sep 6 2006, 04:21 ... Sep 6 2006, 08:15 AM


JRehling A comment on followup missions: Whatever future mi... Sep 6 2006, 12:02 PM


ugordan QUOTE (JRehling @ Sep 6 2006, 01:02 PM) A... Sep 6 2006, 12:29 PM


mchan QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 6 2006, 05:29 AM) Tr... Sep 6 2006, 11:15 PM


ugordan QUOTE (mchan @ Sep 7 2006, 12:15 AM) I do... Sep 7 2006, 06:58 AM

TritonAntares Hi,
let us anticipate the equatorial ridge was bui... Sep 6 2006, 08:51 AM

ugordan The ridge is ancient which means the ring is also ... Sep 6 2006, 09:03 AM


ngunn QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 6 2006, 10:03 AM) Pe... Sep 6 2006, 12:41 PM

ngunn QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Sep 6 2006, 09:51 ... Sep 6 2006, 09:05 AM

tasp QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Sep 6 2006, 03:51 ... Sep 9 2006, 02:32 PM
JRehling QUOTE (The Messenger @ Sep 3 2006, 04:22 ... Sep 5 2006, 04:44 PM
tasp And this, consider the oblique impactor that may h... Aug 31 2006, 01:33 PM
ngunn Note the following sentence already quoted by Alex... Aug 31 2006, 02:52 PM
tasp I am having trouble seeing how the precipitating l... Aug 31 2006, 03:56 PM
Rob Pinnegar You mention "attendant ridges". This was... Aug 31 2006, 05:20 PM
ngunn On multiple ridges - perhaps the emplacement of th... Sep 1 2006, 11:26 AM
tasp I admit a certain favoring of an oblique impact kn... Sep 1 2006, 01:45 PM
ngunn This discussion has become really interesting. I... Sep 1 2006, 02:52 PM
ngunn Just found John Rehling's rather nice diagram ... Sep 4 2006, 01:49 PM
TritonAntares Hi,
I've just been back from a 1-week-vacation... Sep 5 2006, 10:27 AM
ngunn I did ask the other day for someone to re-post an ... Sep 6 2006, 02:08 PM
ugordan QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 6 2006, 03:08 PM) I di... Sep 6 2006, 02:15 PM
djellison Links to that place are not a good idea. Can peop... Sep 6 2006, 02:13 PM
ngunn QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 6 2006, 03:13 PM) ... Sep 6 2006, 02:31 PM
Themisto QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 6 2006, 04:31 PM) Sorr... Sep 6 2006, 03:06 PM
djellison That's better
We used to worry about mention... Sep 6 2006, 03:10 PM
ngunn OK let's see if this works..
http://www.aaw-d... Sep 6 2006, 03:45 PM
tasp 3 intersecting ridges, all describing segments of ... Sep 6 2006, 06:47 PM
ngunn QUOTE (tasp @ Sep 6 2006, 07:47 PM) The f... Sep 7 2006, 08:51 AM
tasp Some of the criteria that seem to be needed for us... Sep 7 2006, 02:58 PM
ngunn QUOTE (tasp @ Sep 7 2006, 03:58 PM) Some ... Sep 7 2006, 03:45 PM
tasp We may find Iapetan like ridge structures on a per... Sep 7 2006, 03:03 PM
TritonAntares Hi,
before we should keep on speculating whether t... Sep 7 2006, 03:50 PM
ngunn QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Sep 7 2006, 04:50 ... Sep 8 2006, 10:44 AM
ugordan I have absolutely no idea on which internal proces... Sep 8 2006, 11:05 AM

ngunn QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 8 2006, 12:05 PM) I ... Sep 8 2006, 12:04 PM


ugordan QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 8 2006, 01:04 PM) On g... Sep 8 2006, 12:25 PM


ngunn QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 8 2006, 01:25 PM) It... Sep 8 2006, 12:45 PM


ugordan Yeah, but why would it flatten itself along the eq... Sep 8 2006, 12:50 PM

Rob Pinnegar Two things today:
QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 8 200... Sep 8 2006, 01:56 PM
ynyralmaen QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 8 2006, 12:44 PM) So, ... Sep 8 2006, 11:34 AM

ngunn QUOTE (ynyralmaen @ Sep 8 2006, 12:34 PM)... Sep 8 2006, 12:12 PM
tasp QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 8 2006, 05:44 AM) So, ... Sep 8 2006, 01:33 PM
Bill Harris This has been a fascinating discussion. Before Ca... Sep 8 2006, 12:56 PM
ngunn Hello Bill - nice to know it's not just the 4 ... Sep 8 2006, 01:18 PM
tasp QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 8 2006, 08:18 AM) Hell... Sep 8 2006, 01:40 PM
tasp Some where here at UMSF is a nice map of Iapetus (... Sep 8 2006, 02:27 PM
tasp I will note that Iapetus is subject to the smalles... Sep 8 2006, 02:30 PM
ugordan However, the surface gravity at Iapetus is also va... Sep 8 2006, 02:38 PM
tasp I also point out that the New Solar System books... Sep 8 2006, 02:36 PM
tasp Virtually all solar system objects are believed to... Sep 8 2006, 02:52 PM
ngunn Is this the one? http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/... Sep 8 2006, 02:54 PM
tasp QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 8 2006, 09:54 AM) Is t... Sep 8 2006, 02:59 PM
ugordan Iapetus is undeniably oblate, but the question is ... Sep 8 2006, 03:04 PM
tasp QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 8 2006, 10:04 AM) Ia... Sep 9 2006, 05:31 AM
hendric I still don't see how the two divergent ridges... Sep 8 2006, 05:54 PM
TritonAntares QUOTE 37th DPS Meeting, 4-9 September 2005
Session... Sep 8 2006, 08:29 PM

tasp QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Sep 8 2006, 03:29 ... Sep 9 2006, 05:28 AM

ngunn QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Sep 8 2006, 09:29 ... Sep 9 2006, 08:59 AM

tasp QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 9 2006, 03:59 AM) . . ... Sep 9 2006, 01:56 PM

ngunn QUOTE (tasp @ Sep 9 2006, 02:56 PM) I hav... Sep 9 2006, 09:56 PM
tasp QUOTE (hendric @ Sep 8 2006, 12:54 PM) I ... Sep 9 2006, 05:10 AM
tasp Also, check out the big elongated crater at 0 to 3... Sep 9 2006, 05:35 AM
tasp Just noticed I did not address moonlets below sync... Sep 9 2006, 09:00 PM
tasp I am thinking we aren't going to see an Iapeta... Sep 10 2006, 01:00 AM
tasp Speaking of New Horizons, how far out can it produ... Sep 10 2006, 01:11 AM
tasp Regarding perturbations of a possible Iapetan ring... Sep 10 2006, 05:08 PM
Michael Capobianco Well, I'm still a bit skeptical as well. For o... Sep 10 2006, 05:18 PM
tasp Of course, the most interesting bit of the ridge s... Sep 10 2006, 06:00 PM
ngunn So much to reply to (no, it isn't driving me t... Sep 10 2006, 08:05 PM
tasp QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 10 2006, 03:05 PM) On ... Sep 11 2006, 02:42 AM![]() ![]() |
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