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scooterlord
post Sep 2 2006, 05:01 PM
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hello.. i am trying to model in 3d the mars rover and can't find the correct material, so I was wondering whether anyone in here has access to more information than I do and cares to help.

I am looking for detailed pictures of rover parts from all sides (top, left, right and bottom). I am attaching a few pics for the members to see the progress of my work. Trying to be as accurate as possible. Process is really slow since I have to make stuff out of bad reference pics I've tried collecting material from the nasa site, from raw images coming from the rover, from roobtics' sites etc, but couldn't come up with the correct reference i am seeking.

if anyone cares to help, please do so smile.gif






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post Sep 2 2006, 07:44 PM
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scooterlord, I do not have the documentation you're asking for, but I want to express my enthusiasm: the work you did up to now is simply breathtaking! ohmy.gif
Did you estimated how many polygons should approximately contain the complete model? (I suspect my poor PC will never be able to visualize it sad.gif )


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post Sep 2 2006, 08:25 PM
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There are a LOT of high res images at the KSC website

Use the advances search option here
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/index.cfm

And search for images, in reverse date order, having selected Mars Exploration Rovers under the Expend. LV drop box.

This is the first image that includes a rover
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=18623

There are a LOT of images in there.

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post Sep 2 2006, 08:28 PM
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thanks dilo.. smile.gif as for the polys, I have no idea, they can end up as many as they want as long as I am happy wink.gif

djelisson, thanks for the sites, i'll look into it. for the time being, just in any case anyone happens to have what i want, i need hi-res photos of the high gain antenna, microscopic imager and especially the mossbauer spectroscoper.


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post Sep 2 2006, 08:45 PM
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I've had a look through for HGA and other deck details.

I share your frustration at IDD detail - there's not a lot out there - so all the more kudos for you for doing a great job on the APXS and RAT.....

Here's some of the best I've found.
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19010
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19006
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19003
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19001
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19002
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19039
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19216
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19459
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19458
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=19456
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=21566
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=21561

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post Sep 2 2006, 08:49 PM
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thanks for the help! currently looking to the site myself.. wink.gif i hope i find helpful reference in there. i'll keep u guys posted for every work-in-progress i do..


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post Sep 2 2006, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (scooterlord @ Sep 2 2006, 08:49 PM) *
I'll keep u guys posted for every work-in-progress i do..

Great! smile.gif


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post Sep 8 2006, 08:09 PM
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hey there guys... sorry it took me a while to get back to you, but I've been really busy lately (and I don't mean with 3d tongue.gif)

temp render of the hga. i actually spent 3 days modeling just this. modeling and re-modeling that is in order to achieve accuracy. but how am I supposed to do that without the correct reference? I spend more hours trying to figure out the shapes and measuring ratios between this line and that line than actually modeling. i'll keep you guys posted for new stuff..



let me know what you think, and PLEASE if you have clear photos other than the ones suggested previously in this thread please share!


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post Sep 8 2006, 08:16 PM
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Sorry, I can't help you. I will just say: wow! You have done these kind of things before haven't you? Amazing!
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post Sep 8 2006, 08:23 PM
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thnx remcook! well, i've done it before, I can do it again. 3d takes a LOT of patience and I have it; the recognition along with the personal satisfaction that comes afterwards is worth it. you can visit other samples of my work at http://sc3ddesigns.f2g.net just to have an idea on what results are to come from this mer project smile.gif


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post Sep 8 2006, 09:17 PM
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Loving the work - I'm wondering what the end goal is - are you intending to animate it - put the model on Turbosquid, or is it a work of passion smile.gif

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post Sep 8 2006, 09:46 PM
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well, reason I started this project is because I was all excited with the new 'trasnformers: the movie' -coming up on 2007- trailer, which features the mars rover. i was looking for a new 3d project to fill my free time, so here it was. i usually start such projects for fun, and personal satisfaction - it's like me having it, designing it, really cool feeling. especially when you end up creating a model from crappy reference etc, increases your perception abilities. very important. IRL i finished a radiologist/actinologist. I take x-rays, CTs, etc. perception is really important especially in surgeries, knowing how the object will look like from different angles, what result i will take on my screen if i point my emmiter here or there..

..but after countless hours of work why not get advantage of it? so it's going to end up in turbosquid, probably in a price too high for people to get, but you never know wink.gif

but most importantly it gives you the opportunity to meet new interesting people and get some interesting offers from time to time. let alone adds up to my personal portfolio, which if in need i'll be able to use to get some work wink.gif


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post Sep 8 2006, 10:04 PM
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Something of an overlap... I'm involved in medical E-learning stuff at work and have done 3d reconstructions of the upper airway from MRI imaging to produce rapid prototyped models of the airway for simulation of aerosol and nebulised drug delivery air flow smile.gif

I'm also going the other way with a MER model - very low res with simple textures which might end up being of use for people like Indian3000 and his interactive software ( he doesn't know yet smile.gif )

There's a couple of fairly expensive MER models on Turbosquid already - but they're not good on accuracy smile.gif

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post Sep 9 2006, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (scooterlord @ Sep 8 2006, 08:23 PM) *
you can visit other samples of my work at http://sc3ddesigns.f2g.net just to have an idea on what results are to come from this mer project smile.gif


Hi scooterlord, quick question, what plugins, if any do I need to view your site? Using firefox in Linux, and I can't get anything up. No worries.


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post Sep 9 2006, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (jaredGalen @ Sep 9 2006, 12:20 PM) *
Hi scooterlord, quick question, what plugins, if any do I need to view your site? Using firefox in Linux, and I can't get anything up. No worries.


well, have no idea about linux, but you should be able to view it properly. all it requires is the shockwave plugin.. but firefox should have it installed already. first time I hear about anyone having problems accessing my site.

people interested can also view my old site: http://sc3ddesigns.f2g.net/index2.html

samples of my work can also be found over at www.cgtalk.com -> search for 'Nick Sotiriadis'

looks like it became an ad topic :>


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