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Victoria ahead..., Time spent at Emma Dean
Stu
post Sep 5 2006, 07:13 AM
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Might I humbly suggest this new thread, as Victoria looms large before us..?

GREAT images guys. I was out last night and have only just got online, to find Victoria opening up ahead of us... what a fantastic time! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 9 2006, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Sep 9 2006, 06:46 AM) *
While we are waiting for the final steps towards Victoria I did the following exercise trying to identify two far rim features (A and cool.gif seen on sol 931 pancams with their counterparts on a MOC image. Yes, this has been already done by Pando (for cool.gif, but I've got different results.

Comparing this identification with Pando's, there is a difference of just 2 degrees in the absolute heading of the feature I identified as B and the one identified by him (slightly to the NE). The problem is that if I rotate the polar projection and the heading lines by those 2 degrees counter-clockwise, the near rim features I used as reference don't match (specially the one to the right of cool.gif and the pancam pointing information (taken from the PCDT web) would be off by those 2 degrees too.

We should know the "ground truth" in few days, hopefully after only one driving sol, but meanwhile I would like to know your comments.


I did the same, and got the same answer as you. But when I identified that feature on the 'old' victoria image (the one Pando just credited) I got the the same position as Pando. blink.gif I think maybe this comes back to what you and I have discussed before about the map not being quite linear (image wasn't taken from *directly* above), hence we can't necessarily draw straight lines to get accurate headings.

QUOTE (Pando @ Sep 9 2006, 08:28 AM) *
EDIT: Actually, going back thru the messages for past few days, I would also like to credit jamescanvin who correctly identified it in this post very early after the images were down (which I missed while fiddling with the images myself).


It is hard keeping up with all this speculation at the moment isn't it! smile.gif Thanks for the credit.

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post Sep 9 2006, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 9 2006, 03:13 AM) *
I did the same, and got the same answer as you.


Opps, I just missed your previous post. sad.gif
Sorry James.

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On a different issue, tosol's imaging plan includes a 4x2 color panorama of Emma Dean.

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Edited: I'm missing to many things! I've just missed your previous post, dot.dk!!! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 9 2006, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Sep 9 2006, 04:43 PM) *
Opps, I just missed your previous post. sad.gif


Don't worry, when I did (almost exactly) what you posted, I got so confused over the differences between the results from using different MOC images that I decided not to post it. So you didn't miss that! smile.gif

As long as all all those that were on the 'beacon on the far rim' team don't miss the fact that it was a 'near rimmer' that first spotted a *real* far rim beacon! tongue.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif (here in case you did)


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- - climber   I agree for this new thread since it'll last o...   Sep 5 2006, 07:29 AM
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