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Dwarf Planet Eris, formerly known as 'Xena'
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post Sep 13 2006, 10:59 PM
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Here's the official name of the 'Xena' ...

Eris: 'Xena' (2003 UB313, 136199)

Eris I or Dysnomia: 'Gabrielle'


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post Sep 13 2006, 11:07 PM
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Sources:

- http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iauc/RecentIAUCs.html

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IAUC 8747 (2006 Sept. 13)

* (134340) PLUTO, (136199) ERIS, AND (136199) ERIS I (DYSNOMIA)

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- http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/special/08747.pdf (IAU Circular PDF)


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post Sep 13 2006, 11:12 PM
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Eris is the personification of strife and Dysnomia is the goddess of anarchy and disobedience.


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post Sep 13 2006, 11:36 PM
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Oh, and the Roman counterpart (actually translation) of Eris is Discordia. According to the Wikipedia, the character Discord in the Hercules and Xena television series is based on her.


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post Sep 14 2006, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (Jyril @ Sep 13 2006, 04:12 PM) *
Eris is the personification of strife and Dysnomia is the goddess of anarchy and disobedience.

laugh.gif Very appropriate!


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post Sep 14 2006, 12:29 AM
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So it was Eris that threw the golden apple of 2003 UB313 amongst the astronomers, to incite them to strife and contention over the definition of a planet...
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post Sep 14 2006, 12:52 AM
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I seem to recall that Brown, et. al., were holding off on announcing the "real" names of their discoveries until after it was determined whether or not 'Xena' would be considered a planet. Something about planet naming conventions vs. TNO naming conventions.

So -- does anyone know, are these names the TNO versions of the names they had in mind? Or were they looking at these names all along?

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post Sep 14 2006, 02:31 AM
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My very eager mother just started using non plastic earrings.

It's a planet to me. Civil disobedience as is necessary.
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post Sep 14 2006, 04:46 AM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 13 2006, 05:52 PM) *
So -- does anyone know, are these names the TNO versions of the names they had in mind? Or were they looking at these names all along?

I seem to remember reading around the time that Quaoar was named that a general naming source for KBOs was going to be non-western creation myths, but I can't find that reference at the moment (Mike Brown's web pages have all been updated since then.)

Frankly, if these names reference the IAU debacle, then they are a little too whimsical for my taste.


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post Sep 14 2006, 11:53 AM
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Nice name, the group responsible for approving names must have a sense of humor. Who would have expected that. tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2006, 01:18 PM
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Space.com:

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Eris' discoverer, Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology, said the name was an obvious choice, calling it "too perfect to resist.''


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post Sep 14 2006, 02:30 PM
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As the Bad Astronomer points out:
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The moon of Eris, formerly known as Gabrielle, is now Dysnomia, the goddess of lawlessness.
Mind the pun here: Xena was played by Lucy Lawless! Man, that’s funny. That must have been on purpose. I’ll have to track that down.

That's a great story, but may be too good to be true.... smile.gif


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post Sep 14 2006, 04:31 PM
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lyford wrote: That's a great story, but may be too good to be true....


Actually I do think the name have been chosen for the connection to that Xena - an in joke.
Just like the two first letter of the name Pluto gets the initials of Percival Lowell. tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2006, 06:47 PM
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SkyTonight.com:

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The satellite, now called Dysnomia, is named for Eris's daughter, the goddess of lawlessness — a tribute, says Brown, to the actress who played Xena, Warrior Princess: Lucy Lawless. But Brown is quick to point out that the moon also follows another tradition for "dwarf planet" satellite names: Pluto's moon Charon was discovered in 1978 by James W. Christy, and the first syllable in Charon matches the first syllable in Christy's wife's name, Charlene. Brown's wife's name is Diane. "We're going to call the moon Di," says Brown.


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post Sep 15 2006, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE (alan @ Sep 14 2006, 06:53 AM) *
Nice name, the group responsible for approving names must have a sense of humor. Who would have expected that. tongue.gif

Both I and my roommate are pagan -- he's a Druid and I'm a Wiccan -- and when we heard the names they chose for 'Xena' and 'Gabrielle,' we were floored! I mean, there are certain groups who refuse to even speak those names (or the names of similar gods of discord and mischief from other pantheons), as just their mere mention, it is thought, can invite that discordant energy into one's life... sad.gif It's sort of like going into the Harry Potter universe and naming a new planet 'Voldemort,' if you know what I mean.

However, as a jibe at the discord that the current "debate" has engendered in the astronomical community, I think they're absolutely perfect!

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