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 Sep 19 2006, 04:03 PM
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 The Poet Dude  Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60  |
Well, what does everyone think of our long-awaited first view..?
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Sep 19 2006, 08:01 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 25-March 05 Member No.: 216 |
Nico,
Apologies if you're bandwidth goes up - I inadventently hotlinked your image here ...  http://j-walkblog.com/index.php?/weblog/co...ts/cover_for_me -------------------- My Open Office Website: http://www.openofficetips.com
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Sep 19 2006, 08:09 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2924 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Regarding the raised rim on the left that some of us thought was "something" sitting on the plain/apron. On stretched pictures, it looks now like a vertical wall on the exterior of the crater. I understand the definition is still poor because of the distance + been taken by the navcams, anyway could this be in the order of one meter range (3-4 feet)? Is this that Tesheiner and others (?) said it could be beacon ?
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Sep 19 2006, 08:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2895 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Ridderkerk, Netherlands Member No.: 353 |
Here is the complete view from Victoria.
Taken with the L0 navcam on Sol 943. jvandriel
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Sep 19 2006, 08:19 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 25-March 05 Member No.: 216 |
I think Oppy is going to approach this crater edge very very carefully.
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Sep 19 2006, 08:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2924 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
To put things in perspective, this remind me of Ordessa (Spain) :
View 100 m from the "rim" :
View from "Cape Verde" :
Imagine we'll have the same contrast in a few days 
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Sep 19 2006, 08:41 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1621 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
Sorry, I worked all the afternoon and the evening... That's why I haven't give any reaction.
HAIL VICTORIA!! The view is great.  Due to my terragen simulation, I have he impression to know this landscape  . It's so ... unreal! Me too, I want the pancam!!!!  Tomorrow, I will make my own composition. Now, I'm tired .
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Sep 19 2006, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (MaxSt @ Sep 19 2006, 03:38 PM)  The size of the rock on the left seems to be approximately 2 m. "It's a big rock. I can't wait to tell my friends. They don't have a rock this big." (Spike, in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") |
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Sep 19 2006, 08:45 PM
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I'm a little surprised to see those small outcrops between the dunes on the right. The annulus is neither quite as flat or as featureless (at least in this region) as I supposed.
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Sep 19 2006, 08:52 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4271 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
It's very easy to match even the tiniest details between todays navcams and the orbital images. Look at this comparison, for example, centred on the largest "bay" feature on the far rim:
You can identify many small features on the slope of the "bay". In fact, we can now do a very firm measurement of the slope of that "bay". I've identified a feature at the top of the bay on both images (green arrow) and a feature some distance down (red arrow). The orbital map gives about 46 metres horizontal separation between the two, and today's navcam gives 13.6 metres vertical separation. Highschool trig gives an average slope of just 16.5 degrees! Again, this is an average slope - there could be steeper and less steep portions of the bay. But, gall darn it, 16.5 degrees sounds totally doable! Edit: forgot to mention that navcam crop is 2x vertical stretched. The calculated result was correct, though. |
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Sep 19 2006, 08:53 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
Okay, I got tired of waiting for the tracking data on the last two Navcams and decided to just cheat on those.
200x80 degree cylindrical projection:  equirectangular projection: 
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Sep 19 2006, 08:59 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14457 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
You're doing a lovely job of getting rid of the vignietting on those Mike - any pointers?
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Sep 19 2006, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (David @ Sep 19 2006, 10:45 PM) I'm a little surprised to see those small outcrops between the dunes on the right. The annulus is neither quite as flat or as featureless (at least in this region) as I supposed. Yup, I agree. As a matter of fact, I think we should stay here for a couple of weeks and study those small outcrops... Not! 
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Sep 19 2006, 09:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 19 2006, 08:59 PM) You're doing a lovely job of getting rid of the vignietting on those Mike - any pointers? I'm just using MMB's brightness and vignetting compensation feature. If you export the pan images from MMB using the "File->Advanced->Export Pan Images and PTGui Project..." you'll get the same results, although it depends on my having updated the metadata first. PTGui also helps by smoothing the interface between the images. BTW, everybody... there's a really nice bit of outcrop to the South ... I think we should investigate it while holding still without taking any images for, say, one or two weeks! (I dodge whatever you throw at me ) (Seriously, it might be something to check out after we've done several nice pans from the rim. Or not.) (Edit: Whoops, same joke as Oersted.  )P.S. Nice matchup, fredk! |
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Sep 19 2006, 09:19 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Just joined the party - wow!
Re: The large 'rock' on the left - others have already mentioned it, but people still seem to be confused. It is not a rock, it is the crater wall on the back side of the beacon.
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Sep 19 2006, 09:21 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
QUOTE (Oersted @ Sep 19 2006, 04:06 PM) Yup, I agree. As a matter of fact, I think we should stay here for a couple of weeks and study those small outcrops... Not! Nice big outcrop. Looks like a an easy taget to test the 'go and touch' after they reboot to the new software. |
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