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Victoria's Innards, Your last chance to speculate before we really see it |
Sep 25 2006, 04:41 AM
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So, here's a nice little short-term thread, to let people get on the record with their wild speculations as to what we'll see when we get "up close and personal" with Vickie.
Some have mentioned seeing gully-like features in the walls, in the MOC images. I'll take this moment to disagree -- it looks to me like the talus slope (which makes up most of the exposed interior of the crater, that and the dune field) is streaked all along the interior, and that some streaks swirl a bit as they approach the upper rim. I think what we're seeing here is mass-wasting down the slopes of a non-homogenous surface. While the bulk composition of the surface layer that's slowly falling into Vickie is probably all pretty similar, there are obviously pockets of lighter and darker materials. Those pockets are sliding down into the crater, leaving a striated look as light deposits slide down adjacent to darker ones. At this point, the wind circulation system within the crater kicks in, modifying the light and dark streaks -- especially near the upper rim around the capes and down into the bays. I think the gully-like feature leading down from Duck Bay is probably nothing more than a mass-wastage slide of dark material down into the crater that has been swirled up a bit near where the winds howl in through Duck Bay. Let's see, what other potentially embarrasing predictions can I make? I think that while the dark spots on the far rim's cape structures aren't entrances into deep caves, I'd bet that some of them are shallow "alcove" caves. Places where softer rock have been windblown out of the near-vertical rock face, leaving dimple-caves in the rock. While these would be great places to repel down into and set up a sleeping bag for the night (the cliffs keep the big predators away, after all... -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Sep 26 2006, 06:30 PM
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You have it right. I know it's confusing, but basically, the view is quite similar to Endurance, just scaled up
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dvandorn Victoria's Innards Sep 25 2006, 04:41 AM
Pando Cough.. cough...
I have to admit though, the ... Sep 25 2006, 05:22 AM
djellison QUOTE (Pando @ Sep 25 2006, 06:22 AM) I h... Sep 25 2006, 06:48 AM
Pando Heh, I know the MC forum had a few people feverish... Sep 25 2006, 07:01 AM
djellison http://www.habitablezone.com/space/messages/439873... Sep 25 2006, 07:05 AM
edstrick Actually, the graphic will not be that far from re... Sep 25 2006, 09:33 AM
Bill Harris Pando's visualization is very close to what we... Sep 25 2006, 10:19 AM
Pando QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Sep 25 2006, 03:19 A... Sep 26 2006, 07:25 AM
climber I don't fully agree. I also think that Pando... Sep 25 2006, 11:15 AM
diane One of the tricks will be figuring out Vicky's... Sep 25 2006, 11:35 AM
climber QUOTE (diane @ Sep 25 2006, 01:35 PM) I t... Sep 25 2006, 04:19 PM
imipak QUOTE (climber @ Sep 25 2006, 05:19 PM) W... Sep 25 2006, 08:23 PM

climber QUOTE (imipak @ Sep 25 2006, 10:23 PM) Si... Sep 25 2006, 08:26 PM
diane QUOTE (climber @ Sep 25 2006, 12:19 PM) D... Sep 26 2006, 12:10 AM
antoniseb QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 24 2006, 10:41 PM) ... Sep 25 2006, 12:33 PM
Gray dvandorn asked for wild speculations. I thought I... Sep 25 2006, 01:28 PM
ngunn I think we will see evidence of vertical shearing ... Sep 25 2006, 02:05 PM
Bill Harris One of the puzzles to me is the scalloped rim of V... Sep 25 2006, 02:26 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Sep 25 2006, 03:26 P... Sep 25 2006, 02:42 PM
BrianL QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Sep 25 2006, 09:26 A... Sep 25 2006, 05:26 PM

Jeff7 QUOTE (BrianL @ Sep 25 2006, 01:26 PM) Pr... Sep 26 2006, 12:33 AM
fredk QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Sep 25 2006, 02:26 P... Sep 25 2006, 10:55 PM
Pando QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 25 2006, 03:55 PM) I w... Sep 26 2006, 02:34 AM
ngunn QUOTE (Pando @ Sep 26 2006, 03:34 AM) Hmm... Sep 26 2006, 09:43 AM
nprev Kind of bummed about the extensive dust obscuratio... Sep 25 2006, 02:50 PM
Nix Now that's the kind of meeting I've been t... Sep 25 2006, 04:52 PM
Pando QUOTE (Nix @ Sep 25 2006, 09:52 AM) gathe... Sep 25 2006, 05:11 PM
climber QUOTE (Pando @ Sep 25 2006, 07:11 PM) Uh,... Sep 25 2006, 05:31 PM
Nix QUOTE (Pando @ Sep 25 2006, 07:11 PM) Uh,... Sep 25 2006, 07:45 PM
ngunn Can we please have the barbecue at a safer spot? Sep 25 2006, 08:44 PM
Bill Harris QUOTE you have an entire planet to explore and you... Sep 25 2006, 08:44 PM
fredk As far as what the interior of Victoria will look ... Sep 25 2006, 11:32 PM
Bobby I would say Mud Flap Gal & Mysetery Man will b... Sep 26 2006, 12:39 AM
Bill Harris > won't dare step into a geologist's bo... Sep 26 2006, 02:32 AM
fredk Thanks, Pando. Judging from the filename and crea... Sep 26 2006, 03:38 AM
Bill Harris Uh, yes, your post "over there" a couple... Sep 26 2006, 09:17 AM
edstrick Than's for re-posting a pic of the double laye... Sep 26 2006, 10:05 AM
ngunn QUOTE (edstrick @ Sep 26 2006, 11:05 AM) ... Sep 26 2006, 11:12 AM
edstrick I think most of the local soft-stuff has blown awa... Sep 26 2006, 11:34 AM
Gray The latest images of Victoria appear to show that ... Sep 26 2006, 01:50 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Gray @ Sep 26 2006, 02:50 PM) The ... Sep 26 2006, 04:47 PM
gregp1962 I'm confused. Are we looking over the near rim... Sep 26 2006, 04:53 PM
Pando Dogu? Sep 26 2006, 08:12 PM
MarkL Has anyone considered the possibility that Victori... Sep 27 2006, 03:23 AM
Pavel QUOTE (MarkL @ Sep 26 2006, 11:23 PM) Has... Sep 27 2006, 05:40 AM
Bill Harris >explain its morphology
It's a crater.
--... Sep 27 2006, 07:44 AM
MarkL QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Sep 27 2006, 07:44 A... Sep 28 2006, 01:02 AM
diane Bill, thanks for posting the Meteor crater formati... Sep 28 2006, 11:51 AM
alan Boundary between original surface and ejacta blank... Sep 28 2006, 03:14 PM
Gray QUOTE (alan @ Sep 28 2006, 03:14 PM) Boun... Sep 29 2006, 01:39 PM
Bill Harris Alan, I've not got this one figured out either... Sep 28 2006, 09:07 PM
Burmese Perhaps the layer just below the fine surface coat... Sep 29 2006, 04:26 PM![]() ![]() |
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