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The Far Rim, Looking at the other side
jamescanvin
post Sep 29 2006, 12:03 AM
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Since the main Victoria thread is now explicitly about Duck Bay and the surrounds here is another for far rim discussions.

Quite a bit more has been revealed after the last drives. Here's the MOC/Navcam match.

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post Oct 7 2006, 07:46 AM
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I wanted to compare our previously best MOC image to the new MRO image. This animated gif is so much nicer with a few transition frames, but I couldn't get it below the limit without further reducing the image quality, so I had to reduce it to two frames. It may not be a truly correct comparison since the best version of the MOC image available to me was the recently released subframe jpeg, which is surely not as good as it could be compared to the quality of the MRO image released today.

Anyway, we have been looking at the MOC image for quite some time now, and we've commented on how much better it was than the previous MOC that was not captured with c-Proto technology. But this new step change in image quality is seriously impressive. I have tried to do minimal damage to the original images while constraining this file to less than 1 MB in size. I am sure that both images are degraded in some ways. I had to rescale them to match and also to rotate one to match the other.

The viewing geometry of the orbiters is different, and I have no idea how to adjust for the perspective differences, so I simply tried to register the images as best I could on the dune field at the bottom of the crater, so the crater rim jumps between the two frames. My original intention was to look for changes in the dune field geometry. I also tried to find some boulders that might have recently fallen from the cliffs, but I do not see any convincing changes in either. If you have animation software, take these 2 frames and insert some fade transitions.

Wow, this is better than taking a new car for a spin...
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- jamescanvin   The Far Rim   Sep 29 2006, 12:03 AM
- - climber   Don't know if this thread is about Far rim but...   Sep 29 2006, 08:01 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Here would be a problem! The PANCAM will ne...   Sep 29 2006, 11:06 PM
- - fredk   We've got a great long baseline for the far ri...   Oct 2 2006, 06:11 PM
|- - ngunn   Brilliant. I think I am seeing two areas where st...   Oct 2 2006, 07:01 PM
|- - dilo   Well done, Fred... I had same idea, this is based...   Oct 2 2006, 08:19 PM
- - climber   I didn't hear about this so far : There's ...   Oct 2 2006, 08:39 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (climber @ Oct 2 2006, 09:39 PM) Do...   Oct 2 2006, 09:01 PM
|- - WindyT   QUOTE (climber @ Oct 2 2006, 08:39 PM) I ...   Oct 3 2006, 03:18 PM
- - Stu   QUOTE (climber @ Oct 2 2006, 08:39 PM) Th...   Oct 2 2006, 09:35 PM
- - CosmicRocker   fredk, dilo...thank you for those. When I saw the...   Oct 3 2006, 04:48 AM
- - Floyd   I havent really looked at extra wide baseline ster...   Oct 3 2006, 11:59 AM
- - Stu   There's a ghost crater over there... Can t...   Oct 3 2006, 08:31 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (Stu @ Oct 3 2006, 08:31 PM) There...   Oct 4 2006, 06:01 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Stu: I'm not sure, but I think all we can say...   Oct 4 2006, 04:47 AM
- - Aberdeenastro   Stu, I'm really surprised that your ghost cra...   Oct 4 2006, 07:33 AM
- - Vladimorka   Do these "ghost" craters provide the opp...   Oct 4 2006, 08:58 AM
- - Bill Harris   The ghost craters we see in these Navcams are like...   Oct 4 2006, 09:13 AM
- - fredk   With the move onto Verde we can see new parts of t...   Oct 5 2006, 05:41 PM
- - jamescanvin   Which reminds me, time for another far rim vs MOC ...   Oct 6 2006, 01:50 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Oct 6 2006, 11:50 AM...   Oct 7 2006, 03:51 AM
|- - mhoward   Now that is a comparison. Seriously, what gift ...   Oct 7 2006, 05:29 AM
|- - Jyril   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Oct 7 2006, 06:51 AM...   Oct 7 2006, 04:05 PM
- - CosmicRocker   That's awesome, James. The new MRO view has b...   Oct 7 2006, 05:24 AM
- - Indian3000   I agree with you, mhoward - "an image fallen...   Oct 7 2006, 07:22 AM
- - CosmicRocker   I wanted to compare our previously best MOC image ...   Oct 7 2006, 07:46 AM
- - dvandorn   Great work, Tom. Interestingly, there are some wa...   Oct 7 2006, 08:35 AM
- - CosmicRocker   If you could point that boulder out, I am sure man...   Oct 7 2006, 08:42 AM
- - dvandorn   Actually, I'm sort of impressed by this little...   Oct 7 2006, 08:58 AM
- - dvandorn   I just brought up the full-res png image, and I...   Oct 7 2006, 09:12 AM
- - Bill Harris   CR/o'Doug, is this boulder and track you are d...   Oct 7 2006, 01:56 PM
- - Reckless   I think this is another rolling boulder smaller an...   Oct 7 2006, 02:38 PM
- - dvandorn   Darn it, Bill, I don't have Photoshop right at...   Oct 7 2006, 04:05 PM
|- - Astrophil   On the new image, there's a linear feature in ...   Oct 7 2006, 05:44 PM
- - fredk   Unfortunately these boulders are near the limit of...   Oct 7 2006, 05:51 PM
|- - Oersted   QUOTE (fredk @ Oct 7 2006, 07:51 PM) a fl...   Oct 7 2006, 08:26 PM
- - dvandorn   OK, Fred -- with that flicker-gif, I have to agree...   Oct 7 2006, 06:03 PM
- - Bill Harris   I think that the linear feature is an "anatol...   Oct 7 2006, 06:05 PM
- - dvandorn   Agreed, Bill. The linear features on the inner wa...   Oct 7 2006, 06:31 PM
- - Reckless   Hi Guys looks like I misjudged my 'boulder tra...   Oct 7 2006, 07:16 PM
- - Bill Harris   Good flicker-GIF, fred. Here is my interpretive i...   Oct 7 2006, 08:47 PM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (fredk @ Oct 7 2006, 12:51 PM) Unfo...   Oct 8 2006, 05:19 AM
- - Bill Harris   Exploring this crater is going to be more than ama...   Oct 8 2006, 09:34 AM
- - Reckless   Bill I think this is the Dike they referred to in...   Oct 8 2006, 10:31 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Right. That is the feature that was visible when ...   Oct 8 2006, 07:03 PM
- - Bill Harris   I'm doubtful that it is a dike. We haven...   Oct 8 2006, 07:54 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I'm doubtful too. However, it is surprising t...   Oct 9 2006, 04:05 AM
- - fredk   The latest pancams (sol 986) give us a great long ...   Nov 6 2006, 12:52 AM
- - jamescanvin   Long baseline, colour anaglyph of the far rim. ...   Nov 6 2006, 05:30 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Wow, you guys are amazing. I've been struggli...   Nov 6 2006, 06:16 AM
- - fredk   Thanks for that James! I had made a version f...   Nov 6 2006, 05:12 PM
- - climber   James : your work realy give a different perspecti...   Nov 6 2006, 08:49 PM
- - jamescanvin   Thanks guys. QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Nov 6 200...   Nov 6 2006, 09:50 PM
- - CosmicRocker   Well, it is all clear now, after finding the time ...   Nov 7 2006, 05:35 AM
- - Stu   Nice new pix this morning...   Nov 7 2006, 06:58 AM
- - Stu   Very intrigued by the foot of the cliff here...   Nov 7 2006, 07:45 AM
- - alan   I've just noticed in Stu's image an there ...   Nov 7 2006, 12:28 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (alan @ Nov 7 2006, 12:28 PM) This ...   Nov 7 2006, 12:37 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (alan @ Nov 7 2006, 12:28 PM) I...   Nov 7 2006, 12:44 PM
- - fredk   Stu, those are nice images but they're a few d...   Nov 7 2006, 05:35 PM
- - Stu   QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 7 2006, 05:35 PM) Stu,...   Nov 7 2006, 05:40 PM


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