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Down Time, when will the solar blackout period be?
antoniseb
post Oct 7 2006, 03:54 PM
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Very soon, Mars will appear too close in the sky to the Sun for us to communicate very well to the MERs. Can someone say what the blackout dates will be, and especially when we start communicating again?
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post Oct 31 2006, 05:49 AM
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Yes, Diane, we did. Although they were not terribly interesting, it does seem that some data has trickled in. Tonight I went to JPL's solar system simulator and generated views of the sun as seen from Mars (woops, I mean as seen from Earth). I chose a field of view of 5 degrees, and watched Mars as it and Earth chased one another around the Sun.

The attached gif animation displays the Sun at the center of the 5 degree field of view, so there are 2.5 degrees on either side of the center of the Sun as Mars passes by. By October 31st, it would appear to have gone beyond the nominal 2 degrees of elongation officially quoted earlier, and well past the 0.5 degrees noted as communication limits also officially quoted for MRO, as mentioned by Rodolfo. I enjoyed taking out an old tool I haven't used since I had to draw contour maps by hand, my dividers. By Jove, they still work well as a navigation aid. smile.gif As far as I can tell from the 5 degree simulator images, these simulator images agree reasonably well with the ephemeris numbers posted by Dave in post #15. An added bonus is a glimpse of Venus and the Messenger spacecraft passing through the scene.

It's also apparent that Mars' orbit as seen from Earth only grazes the edge of the Sun, and isn't totally covered by it. So, what is the story regarding the blackout period for the various Mars missions? I am measuring something like a 5 degree elongation for the November 8-10 dates. unsure.gif
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- antoniseb   Down Time   Oct 7 2006, 03:54 PM
- - PhilCo126   Wouldn't that be during the last 3 weeks of Oc...   Oct 7 2006, 04:38 PM
- - alan   Press releases from last time around may serve as ...   Oct 7 2006, 05:06 PM
|- - disownedsky   QUOTE (alan @ Oct 7 2006, 01:06 PM) ...   Oct 7 2006, 08:41 PM
|- - MarkL   QUOTE (disownedsky @ Oct 7 2006, 08:41 PM...   Oct 8 2006, 01:43 AM
- - RNeuhaus   For MRO with its demostration telecomunications wi...   Oct 8 2006, 01:32 AM
- - edstrick   The Pioneer 11 Saturn encounter was just before so...   Oct 8 2006, 10:02 AM
- - antoniseb   Thanks, so my understanding is that it will be abo...   Oct 8 2006, 02:24 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (antoniseb @ Oct 8 2006, 09:24 AM) ...   Oct 8 2006, 03:15 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Oct 8 2006, 08:15 AM) T...   Oct 9 2006, 03:00 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (lyford @ Oct 9 2006, 10:00 AM) Wha...   Oct 9 2006, 09:02 PM
- - Aberdeenastro   Do you know I'm quite pleased about 18 days ...   Oct 9 2006, 09:10 AM
- - PhilCo126   Glad we have an IMAX theater in Brussels   Oct 10 2006, 04:49 PM
|- - Oersted   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Oct 10 2006, 06:49 PM)...   Oct 10 2006, 07:53 PM
|- - Steve   Here's a day-by-day reckoning of the changing ...   Oct 10 2006, 09:03 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   CODEEphemeris of Mars Date Time (UTC) ...   Oct 10 2006, 10:14 PM
- - climber   I've got the Official answer From last Spir...   Oct 13 2006, 09:49 PM
- - PhilCo126   Amazing 4-digit sols   Oct 14 2006, 11:50 AM
- - jamescanvin   The end of conjunction date in the Spirit update h...   Oct 18 2006, 01:08 AM
- - CosmicRocker   I just noticed that, too. The posted ephemeris da...   Oct 18 2006, 03:13 AM
- - jamescanvin   Yeah, from Steve's above post I would say that...   Oct 18 2006, 04:57 AM
- - Stu   Waaaaay too long to post here, but if anyone would...   Oct 29 2006, 08:00 PM
- - tuvas   I know with MRO, we're planning to start opera...   Oct 30 2006, 05:21 AM
- - CosmicRocker   That's a useful piece of information. Playing...   Oct 30 2006, 06:21 AM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Oct 29 2006, 11:21 ...   Oct 30 2006, 02:14 PM
- - diane   I notice that we do have pictures back from Oppy y...   Oct 30 2006, 04:17 PM
- - CosmicRocker   Yes, Diane, we did. Although they were not terrib...   Oct 31 2006, 05:49 AM
- - tuvas   There isn't a blackout, at least, not a comple...   Oct 31 2006, 06:02 AM
- - fredk   The big mystery was the asymmetry of the conjuncti...   Oct 31 2006, 05:32 PM
- - alan   http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...POP24...   Nov 1 2006, 01:51 AM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (alan @ Nov 1 2006, 02:51 AM) http:...   Nov 1 2006, 07:44 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Nice view of The Beacon, alan. The other one of t...   Nov 1 2006, 05:01 AM
- - Myran   QUOTE Processed version (this is a geologist heave...   Nov 2 2006, 01:03 AM
- - kungpostyle   Conjunction is definately over now, huge group of ...   Nov 2 2006, 01:24 AM


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