Did Venus Have A Moon? |
Did Venus Have A Moon? |
Oct 11 2006, 07:06 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE JRehling wrote: ...would we be here as an advanced species to discuss the issue if Earth had Uranus's inclination?. If one such Earth had the same orbit as it have now, evolution would of course have taken another path and Homo Sapiens are very unlikely to be around. Yet I see no reason why one such alterative Earth not would be host to advanced life. Half year long periods with sunlight around the clock followed by equally long dark winters are after all the natural state of things! |
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Oct 16 2006, 06:19 PM
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Half year long periods with sunlight around the clock followed by equally long dark winters are after all the natural state of things! In earlier warmer times when there were forests as far north as Ellesmere land and in inland Antarctica lots of plants and animals apparently did quite well under conditions that approached these, so I can't see any strong reason that "Uranian" climate should prevent advanced life forms from developing. tty |
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Oct 16 2006, 06:35 PM
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In earlier warmer times when there were forests as far north as Ellesmere land and in inland Antarctica lots of plants and animals apparently did quite well under conditions that approached these, so I can't see any strong reason that "Uranian" climate should prevent advanced life forms from developing. tty Earth is a biased point whether we can prove that life couldn't have gotten sophisticated on a tilted Earth or not -- the burden of proof is on data being unbiased, not vice versa. But to get into a bit of detail, if we want to talk about a technological civilization, then there is a need for high-yield food production, which in turn requires plants and animals that can be domesticated. And it's a very small fraction of all plants and animals that can be domesticated -- if you cut the number of available species, you presumably cut the ratio of those that can be domesticated. For example, there are no plant species native to Canada that could be domesticated for food production, even though Canada has plenty of forests. This may be like standing farther away from a dartboard: as a matter of principle, there's no reason why you can't hit a bullseye, but it gets less likely. |
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nprev Did Venus Have A Moon? Oct 11 2006, 07:06 PM
Myran I read it and agree that slow rotation of Venus ar... Oct 11 2006, 08:01 PM
Jyril I agree, the theory sounds a bit too complicated a... Oct 11 2006, 08:08 PM
Rob Pinnegar Cute, but it's just speculation. Nobody can pr... Oct 11 2006, 08:09 PM
JRehling Keep in mind that the rate of Venus's rotation... Oct 11 2006, 09:07 PM
AndyG QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Oct 11 2006, 09:09 ... Oct 12 2006, 08:41 AM
tasp Whew, heady stuff.
I think the odds for the Satur... Oct 12 2006, 03:20 AM
nprev I gotta agree with the majority opinion so far; th... Oct 12 2006, 03:53 AM
edstrick Venus's solar tidal drag on the solid body is ... Oct 12 2006, 10:18 AM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (edstrick @ Oct 12 2006, 04:18 AM) ... Oct 12 2006, 02:20 PM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 11 2006, 02:06 PM) ...... Oct 12 2006, 02:49 PM
JRehling QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Oct 12 2006, 07:49 AM) ... Oct 12 2006, 04:08 PM
Rob Pinnegar Hmmm. Would a satellite small enough to avoid disi... Oct 12 2006, 04:58 PM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 12 2006, 11:08 AM) ... Oct 12 2006, 06:53 PM
JRehling QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Oct 12 2006, 11:53 AM) ... Oct 12 2006, 08:25 PM
Bill Harris QUOTE My initial thought was "but that requir... Oct 12 2006, 03:42 PM
DonPMitchell According to dynamics calculations by Alexandre Co... Oct 12 2006, 07:36 PM
nprev Interesting...but how about Mars' relatively r... Oct 13 2006, 04:55 AM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 12 2006, 11:55 PM) Int... Oct 13 2006, 06:59 PM
nprev Well, I'll be...I actually didn't know tha... Oct 14 2006, 12:14 AM
JRehling QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 13 2006, 05:14 PM) Wel... Oct 14 2006, 02:24 AM
nprev Argh...my apologies for misunderstanding you, RN. ... Oct 14 2006, 03:45 AM
JRehling QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 13 2006, 08:45 PM) wha... Oct 14 2006, 04:59 AM

ugordan QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 14 2006, 05:59 AM) ... Oct 14 2006, 09:21 AM

helvick That was my thinking too.
To nudge this slightly ... Oct 14 2006, 11:17 AM

JRehling QUOTE (helvick @ Oct 14 2006, 04:17 AM) T... Oct 15 2006, 04:59 AM

helvick QUOTE (JRehling @ Oct 15 2006, 05:59 AM) ... Oct 15 2006, 06:07 AM

JRehling QUOTE (helvick @ Oct 14 2006, 11:07 PM) A... Oct 15 2006, 03:32 PM
RNeuhaus QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 13 2006, 10:45 PM) Arg... Oct 15 2006, 12:00 AM
nprev Delinquent thanks for the great "pocket... Oct 19 2006, 09:27 AM
diane QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 19 2006, 05:27 AM) Del... Oct 20 2006, 10:42 PM
dvandorn Here's a question:
If this model is correct a... Oct 21 2006, 02:11 AM
tasp QUOTE (dvandorn @ Oct 20 2006, 09:11 PM) ... Oct 21 2006, 02:24 AM
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