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MARS 5 image comparison
MizarKey
post Nov 2 2006, 09:44 PM
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Thanks to Ustrax in this post , I've had a chance to see some of the Russian images I've never seen.

It looks like they had some problems with stitching or something. Note these two:

February 25 program 4 image 8Z


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February 26 program 5 image 12Z


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Same approx. area, one has a folded landscape on the left, the other has an old crater...right hand side appears to be the same though. I don't know if there's a way to find out where this area is to compare it to MOC images...


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Dio
post Nov 6 2006, 11:15 PM
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>> Welcome to our discussion, Dio. It's good to have contributions from Russia. If you look back through this >> forum, under Venus, Moon and Mars, you will see we have a lot of interest in the Soviet missions. Of course >> there is still a lot more to learn. But I am especially interested in future developments including
>> Phobos-Grunt and Luna-Glob.

Thank you, Phil.

I definilely heard from some person working in Lavochkin that Luna-Glob is entirely paper work and PR of authorities. No real work was accomplished in this area since middle 90th.

>> Seems to me that one site in Cuba, one in Crimea and one near Vladivostok should work just as well as
>> Goldstone-Madrid-Canberra except perhaps at high southern latitudes.

In retrospective view, Cuba could be nice place geographically, but politically troublesome.
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post Nov 11 2006, 05:30 AM
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QUOTE (Dio @ Nov 6 2006, 11:15 PM) *
I definilely heard from some person working in Lavochkin that Luna-Glob is entirely paper work and PR of authorities. No real work was accomplished in this area since middle 90th


In your opinion is this true of the Phobos Grunt mission also?

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post Nov 12 2006, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (JonClarke @ Nov 11 2006, 08:30 AM) *
In your opinion is this true of the Phobos Grunt mission also?


My words on this subject here are just the second-hand testimony, so my personal opinion is of no value.

The same source as above claimed that assembly of Phobos-Grunt craft is gradually carried out, though it is not work of high internal priority for Lavochkin and it was repeatedly stalled during last years. After multipe delays, re-plannings etc., noone could get qualified estimate of a-priory success ratio. There is lots of scepsis about this project. But the situation is different from Luna-Glob.

As I was informed, modern Lavochkin projects could be roughly devided to three parts.

First, alive ones with approximately clean perspective, include Spectr-R and Electro-L.

Second are half-alive, Phobos-Grunt and Spectr-UF among them.

3rd, "Luna-Glob", "Resonans" and "Spectr-M" were characterized as programs, existence of which "became known to Lavochkin collaborators from newspapers" and "to this list one could easily append landing on the surface of Sun and delivery of samples from Pluto".
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post Nov 13 2006, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (Dio @ Nov 12 2006, 07:44 PM) *
My words on this subject here are just the second-hand testimony, so my personal opinion is of no value.


I would not be so deprecating of your contribution. It is most valued. Thanks for sharing it.

What you say is a bit disapointing, but understandable under the circumstances. It's good to hear that Spectr-R and Electro-L are looking good, and that the fact that some work is still being done Phobos-Grunt and Spectr-UF is encouraging. I hope they fly. I met some people from Lavochin several years ago, I was most impressed.

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- MizarKey   MARS 5 image comparison   Nov 2 2006, 09:44 PM
- - 4th rock from the sun   I really haven't checked but I think that thos...   Nov 3 2006, 11:48 AM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Nov 3 2006, 11...   Nov 3 2006, 01:05 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE (ngunn @ Nov 3 2006, 02:05 PM) Woul...   Nov 3 2006, 09:39 PM
|- - tedstryk   That is some impressive image location! I a...   Nov 4 2006, 12:11 AM
- - babakm   I find Google Mars pretty useful for these kind of...   Nov 3 2006, 05:17 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   Nice match! It does show the data in context. ...   Nov 3 2006, 09:33 PM
|- - babakm   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Nov 3 2006, 09...   Nov 4 2006, 02:35 AM
- - djellison   The reason they used to use film developed on boar...   Nov 4 2006, 12:19 AM
- - dvandorn   Also recall that the Lunar Orbiter series worked i...   Nov 4 2006, 04:49 AM
- - Dio   >> Same approx. area, one has a folded lands...   Nov 4 2006, 09:40 PM
- - Myran   QUOTE djellison wrote: The reason they used to use...   Nov 5 2006, 02:24 AM
- - Dio   LO images with typical damages: http://www.lpi.us...   Nov 5 2006, 08:49 AM
|- - tty   QUOTE (Dio @ Nov 5 2006, 09:49 AM) LO ima...   Nov 5 2006, 04:29 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Welcome to our discussion, Dio. It's good to ...   Nov 5 2006, 02:13 PM
- - Dio   >> Welcome to our discussion, Dio. It's ...   Nov 6 2006, 11:15 PM
|- - JonClarke   QUOTE (Dio @ Nov 6 2006, 11:15 PM) I defi...   Nov 11 2006, 05:30 AM
|- - Dio   QUOTE (JonClarke @ Nov 11 2006, 08:30 AM)...   Nov 12 2006, 07:44 PM
|- - JonClarke   QUOTE (Dio @ Nov 12 2006, 07:44 PM) My wo...   Nov 13 2006, 08:36 PM
- - MizarKey   Many thanks to Babakm for his earlier post with co...   Nov 10 2006, 07:30 PM
- - Phil Stooke   4th Rock said "The strange thing is flying a ...   Nov 12 2006, 09:24 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   Ok, I understand that, I was just thinking out lou...   Nov 12 2006, 11:48 PM
- - nprev   Yes, really not at all bad...comparable to many Ma...   Nov 13 2006, 02:05 AM
- - 4th rock from the sun   The problem with the Mars 5 (and 4) images is the ...   Nov 13 2006, 12:12 PM


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