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Jan 12 2007, 08:52 AM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14445 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Bingo - it'll either be "take a tau, then watch a transit" orrrr the other way around.
Now I've got to start convincing the team to do a Hazcam movie during a good Phobos transit to see the terrain 'dim'. Doug |
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Jan 12 2007, 10:57 AM
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![]() Dublin Correspondent ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1799 Joined: 28-March 05 From: Celbridge, Ireland Member No.: 220 |
Assuming this is a full transit then there would be arund a 40% reduction in light so the dimming in a Hazcam movie would probably be very obvious but even though it would be quite cool to see I'm at a loss as to what scientific merit it would have at all.
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Jan 12 2007, 11:54 AM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14445 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
It's a discussion JB and I have after the last round of transits when they managed to get 4 sec-per-frame shooting of one of them. Purely for cool factor.
From the top of Husband hill looking west or east you might see the darkening moving - but from where we are now it's simply a case of cool factor. downsample them to 512 x 512 - compress them hard - get 12 into the budget of a single normal FHAZ frame and make a movie Doug |
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Jan 12 2007, 05:37 PM
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Problem is, the effect might be almost impossible to see on the "raw" streched images - any dimming will be counteracted by increased stretching perhaps. Depends on stretching algorithm, of course. Presumably we'd see lower contrast with the shadowed areas either way.
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Jan 12 2007, 07:49 PM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14445 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Oh - impossible on the raw....but very visible with calibrated imagery
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Jan 14 2007, 12:24 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4260 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
From the latest update:
QUOTE Sol 1075: Spirit observed the morning transit of Phobos using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer... QUOTE Sol 1078 (Jan. 14, 2007): Plans called for Spirit to ... survey the sky and ground during the Phobos transit at 1:45 p.m. local solar time using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Does anyone know what the temporal resolution or sampling rate of miniTES is? Could it be better than pancam and so better resolve the brief transit? |
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Jan 14 2007, 06:08 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Another weird idea about the eclipse. Instead of taking a movie of the scenary around, can Spirit take the IDD's shadow before during and after pending it's in the correct position? Any benefit of that?
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Jan 14 2007, 10:15 AM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14445 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
It's not really about benefit - it's about cool factor...little else really
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Jan 15 2007, 04:44 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
Lots of new super resolution images posted at the Pancam site
http://marswatch.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_...t/superres.html |
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Jan 15 2007, 11:01 AM
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Hu hu hu hu !
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Jan 15 2007, 05:09 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 242 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Ohio, USA Member No.: 34 |
Amazing !!!!
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Jan 17 2007, 01:34 PM
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Any ideas what formed the tiny spaghetti like features on the top of the accretionary lapilli?
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Jan 17 2007, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4280 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Dust/sand grains or ...?
It would be nice to see another MI at a different illumination angle. |
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Jan 18 2007, 04:11 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
They really do convincingly appear more like lapilli all the time, don't they.
As for the spaghetti-like things, there are views available of the same area with different illumination. The shadowed version is somewhat suggestive of a dust layer adhering to the underside of the layer, but I suppose it could be other things, like remnants of a lower layer of angular clasts, a weathering rind, or a salt deposit. Curious... -------------------- ...Tom
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Jan 18 2007, 04:43 AM
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Merciless Robot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 8789 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Can the TES derive any meaningful information about the "spaghetti's" composition from such a limited (in terms of surface area) sample? Seems as if there's a lot of interesting questions with regard to Martian minerology here that are worth investigating (esp. the influence/effects of atmospheric characteristics vs. mafic influences).
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