NASA Images Suggest Water Still Flows on Mars |
NASA Images Suggest Water Still Flows on Mars |
| Guest_Sunspot_* |
Dec 4 2006, 09:25 PM
Post
#1
|
|
Guests |
Dec. 4, 2006
Dwayne Brown/Erica Hupp Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726/1237 Guy Webster Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-6278 MEDIA ADVISORY: M06-186 NASA SCHEDULES BRIEFING TO ANNOUNCE SIGNIFICANT FIND ON MARS WASHINGTON - NASA hosts a news briefing at 1 p.m. EST, Wednesday, Dec. 6, to present new science results from the Mars Global Surveyor. The briefing will take place in the NASA Headquarters auditorium located at 300 E Street, S.W. in Washington and carried live on NASA Television and www.nasa.gov. The agency last week announced the spacecraft's mission may be at its end. Mars Global Surveyor has served the longest and been the most productive of any spacecraft ever sent to the red planet. Data gathered from the mission will continue to be analyzed by scientists. Panelists include: - Michael Meyer -- Lead Scientist, Mars Exploration Program, NASA Headquarters, Washington - Michael Malin -- President and Chief Scientist, Malin Space Science Systems, San Diego, Calif. - Kenneth Edgett -- Scientist, Malin Space Science Systems - Philip Christensen -- Professor, Arizona State University, Tempe, Ariz. |
|
|
|
![]() |
| Guest_Myran_* |
Dec 6 2006, 11:58 PM
Post
#2
|
|
Guests |
QUOTE tuvas wrote: Liquid CO2? Is that even possible at Mars? Somehow I don't think so... But I could be wrong... Liquid CO2 will not be possible in 'open air' with the Martian air as thin as it is, same as on Earth. But nothing prevents liquid CO2 from being kept underground if it have a good nice aquifier or perhaps a lid of frozen water. Yes the pressure would be great, but this could also explain features like the ones we see here. I personally think CO2 are a more likely explanation. This simply from looking at the martian temperature range. The surface are simply cold, and when we look underground it should be even colder in most places! (This except any and still-not-found-despite-looking geotermal hotspots). Colder conditions underground places the thermometer in the right range for frozen CO2, which happens at -78 °C. Narrow cracks in the ground might become CO2 traps when the area chills down in the night. We also seen signs of karst topography in Meridiani, if that idea turns out to be correct there might even be larger caves where CO2 ice accumulate on the walls. When it melts at −57 °C there might not be space for it to expand and reach the gasous phase and so it rush towards the nearest opening - and so we have a gully. So I am fairly in the same camp as deglr6328 on this one. |
|
|
|
| Guest_AlexBlackwell_* |
Dec 7 2006, 12:06 AM
Post
#3
|
|
Guests |
Liquid CO2 will not be possible in 'open air' with the Martian air as thin as it is, same as on Earth. But nothing prevents liquid CO2 from being kept underground if it have a good nice aquifier or perhaps a lid of frozen water. Yes the pressure would be great, but this could also explain features like the ones we see here. There are plausibility arguments against sequestration of liquid CO2 in the martian near-surface. For example, see Stewart and Nimmo [2002] (440 Kb PDF). |
|
|
|
Sunspot NASA Images Suggest Water Still Flows on Mars Dec 4 2006, 09:25 PM
monitorlizard The presence of Philip Christensen (PI for TES) on... Dec 4 2006, 10:08 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Dec 4 2006, 12:08 ... Dec 5 2006, 04:14 PM
Tesheiner I just found this while reading NASA Watch; perhap... Dec 5 2006, 09:22 AM
djellison It's impossible to know where smoke ends and f... Dec 5 2006, 09:51 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 4 2006, 11:51 PM) ... Dec 5 2006, 04:10 PM
Sunspot Gullies Dec 5 2006, 04:52 PM
tglotch A few points:
1) Remember that a TES "pixel... Dec 5 2006, 05:53 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (tglotch @ Dec 5 2006, 07:53 AM) 2)... Dec 5 2006, 06:08 PM
ugordan This definitely sounds like it belongs to a separa... Dec 5 2006, 06:29 PM
AlexBlackwell Per Gordan's suggestion, I'll start a new ... Dec 5 2006, 08:00 PM
AlexBlackwell Leonard David has a brief blurb in his blog. Dec 5 2006, 08:24 PM
volcanopele Maybe a gully seen recently but not seen in older ... Dec 5 2006, 08:31 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 5 2006, 10:31 AM... Dec 6 2006, 01:03 AM
JonClarke QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 6 2006, 01:03 ... Dec 6 2006, 06:47 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (JonClarke @ Dec 5 2006, 08:47 PM) ... Dec 6 2006, 04:21 PM
MizarKey I know that this group is usually great about post... Dec 6 2006, 04:30 PM
AlexBlackwell It looks like the story is leaking out, no pun int... Dec 6 2006, 04:54 PM
ugordan The Daily Mail:
QUOTE Earlier this week the MOC to... Dec 6 2006, 05:08 PM
tuvas QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 6 2006, 09:54 ... Dec 6 2006, 05:16 PM
Stu QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 6 2006, 05:16 PM) Is S... Dec 6 2006, 05:17 PM
tuvas QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2006, 10:17 AM)
... Dec 6 2006, 05:22 PM
Stu Good old Daily Mail... can't be Michael Hanlon... Dec 6 2006, 05:10 PM
imipak QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2006, 05:10 PM) Earlie... Dec 6 2006, 05:17 PM
Stu Sorry, I didn't insert a "sarcastic g*t... Dec 6 2006, 05:20 PM
imipak QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2006, 05:20 PM) Sorry,... Dec 6 2006, 05:40 PM
Stu More details...
Martian find raises chances of l... Dec 6 2006, 05:16 PM
elakdawalla You probably thought he was American because his v... Dec 6 2006, 05:42 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 6 2006, 07:42 AM... Dec 6 2006, 05:45 PM
elakdawalla It's typically more efficient for me to wait u... Dec 6 2006, 05:55 PM
ustrax "MARS
Recent Activity Revealed"
That... Dec 6 2006, 05:57 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 6 2006, 07:55 AM... Dec 6 2006, 05:57 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 6 2006, 07:57 ... Dec 6 2006, 10:33 PM
ElkGroveDan We now have a new unit of measure; Swimming Pools. Dec 6 2006, 06:12 PM
climber QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 6 2006, 07:12 PM... Dec 6 2006, 08:30 PM
remcook very nice summaries on the msss page. Something el... Dec 6 2006, 06:15 PM
tuvas QUOTE (remcook @ Dec 6 2006, 11:15 AM) ve... Dec 6 2006, 06:23 PM
Steve QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 6 2006, 01:23 PM) I... Dec 6 2006, 07:21 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (Steve @ Dec 6 2006, 12:21 PM) I... Dec 6 2006, 07:29 PM

AlexBlackwell QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 09:29 AM... Dec 6 2006, 07:42 PM
tglotch QUOTE (Steve @ Dec 6 2006, 07:21 PM) I... Dec 6 2006, 07:56 PM
exoplanet QUOTE (Steve @ Dec 6 2006, 07:21 PM) ... Dec 7 2006, 12:33 AM
jamescanvin QUOTE (exoplanet @ Dec 7 2006, 11:33 AM) ... Dec 7 2006, 01:00 AM
exoplanet QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Dec 7 2006, 01:00 AM... Dec 7 2006, 02:24 AM
jamescanvin QUOTE (exoplanet @ Dec 7 2006, 01:24 PM) ... Dec 7 2006, 02:50 AM
Steve QUOTE (exoplanet @ Dec 6 2006, 09:24 PM) ... Dec 7 2006, 02:51 AM
Analyst A very good press confernce, good questions.
I ha... Dec 6 2006, 07:09 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (Analyst @ Dec 6 2006, 12:09 PM) fr... Dec 6 2006, 07:15 PM

AlexBlackwell QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 09:15 AM... Dec 6 2006, 08:03 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Analyst @ Dec 6 2006, 02:09 PM) ..... Dec 6 2006, 07:16 PM
um3k I recorded the NASA TV internet stream of the enti... Dec 6 2006, 07:18 PM
AlexBlackwell NASA Images Suggest Water Still Flows in Brief Spu... Dec 6 2006, 07:39 PM
vmcgregor Additional multimedia products (video, podcast, sl... Dec 6 2006, 07:53 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (vmcgregor @ Dec 6 2006, 11:53 AM) ... Dec 6 2006, 08:03 PM
John M. Dollan Considering the rate that the Earth intercepts met... Dec 6 2006, 08:27 PM
helvick QUOTE (John M. Dollan @ Dec 6 2006, 08:27... Dec 6 2006, 11:23 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (helvick @ Dec 6 2006, 01:23 PM) Th... Dec 6 2006, 11:29 PM
John M. Dollan QUOTE (helvick @ Dec 6 2006, 04:23 PM) Th... Dec 6 2006, 11:31 PM
Paolo Are artillery projectile-probes like these http://... Dec 6 2006, 08:29 PM
climber While listening to the show, a question crossed m... Dec 6 2006, 08:38 PM
Stu "Interesting"?
"INTERESTING?... Dec 6 2006, 08:40 PM
imipak QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2006, 08:40 PM) ... Dec 6 2006, 09:38 PM
John M. Dollan Stu...
Where did you find that image? It is abso... Dec 6 2006, 08:46 PM
volcanopele I'm not tuvas. I'm not a vulcan, either, ... Dec 6 2006, 08:48 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 10:48 AM... Dec 6 2006, 08:57 PM
climber QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 09:48 PM... Dec 6 2006, 09:07 PM
Stu QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 08:48 PM... Dec 6 2006, 09:10 PM

Nirgal QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2006, 10:10 PM) ...
Th... Dec 6 2006, 10:44 PM

mhoward QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2006, 09:10 PM) That ... Dec 6 2006, 10:50 PM
RichardLeis QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 01:48 PM... Dec 6 2006, 09:57 PM
JonClarke QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 08:48 PM... Dec 6 2006, 10:15 PM
tuvas QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 01:48 PM... Dec 6 2006, 10:46 PM
ngunn I can't get either the msss or nasa links to w... Dec 6 2006, 09:01 PM
climber QUOTE (ngunn @ Dec 6 2006, 10:01 PM) I ca... Dec 6 2006, 09:10 PM
Stu Pics...
Dec 6 2006, 09:16 PM
Nix I'm very excited with these new foundings, als... Dec 6 2006, 09:21 PM
Analyst QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Dec 6 2006, 08:16 ... Dec 6 2006, 09:36 PM
Stu sigh... okay... so this isn't brand new ... Dec 6 2006, 09:47 PM
climber QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2006, 10:47 PM) sigh..... Dec 6 2006, 09:58 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2006, 04:47 PM) .... b... Dec 6 2006, 11:40 PM
RichardLeis Is the HiRISE camera going to take images of these... Dec 6 2006, 09:58 PM
mhoward QUOTE (RichardLeis @ Dec 6 2006, 09:58 PM... Dec 6 2006, 10:07 PM
ngunn Thanks, Stu and climber for the pictures direct, m... Dec 6 2006, 10:13 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (ngunn @ Dec 6 2006, 12:13 PM) Than... Dec 6 2006, 10:17 PM
deglr6328 It should be noted that IF this is water (I want t... Dec 6 2006, 10:29 PM
tuvas QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Dec 6 2006, 03:29 PM) ... Dec 6 2006, 10:48 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 6 2006, 12:48 PM) Liqu... Dec 6 2006, 10:52 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 6 2006, 02:48 PM) Liqu... Dec 6 2006, 11:47 PM
Anoolios This amateur is still skeptical, is the only evide... Dec 6 2006, 11:11 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Anoolios @ Dec 6 2006, 01:11 PM) T... Dec 6 2006, 11:17 PM
Myran QUOTE AlexBlackwell wrote: There are plausibility ... Dec 7 2006, 12:28 AM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Myran @ Dec 6 2006, 02:28 PM) Fina... Dec 7 2006, 12:33 AM
AlexBlackwell Emily now has a story online at TPS.
EDIT: As wel... Dec 7 2006, 12:57 AM
tfisher This is really exciting. Oh, to have a rover ther... Dec 7 2006, 02:30 AM
CosmicRocker QUOTE (volcanopele @ Dec 6 2006, 02:48 PM... Dec 7 2006, 05:23 AM
climber QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Dec 7 2006, 06:23 A... Dec 7 2006, 08:23 AM
AndyG A question!
What's a likely figure for th... Dec 7 2006, 11:43 AM
ustrax What triggers my imagination in this great discove... Dec 7 2006, 12:24 PM![]() ![]() |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 25th May 2013 - 02:12 PM |
|
RULES AND GUIDELINES Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting. IMAGE COPYRIGHT |
OPINIONS AND MODERATION Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators. |
SUPPORT THE FORUM Unmannedspaceflight.com is a project of the Planetary Society and is funded by donations from visitors and members. Help keep this forum up and running by contributing here. |
|