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It was bound to happen....after the Beacon fest, and the Arrival madness.....
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA01150.jpg Have a look at that image - and then pick your spot, expressed as X and Y. I'm going for 2, -3 ( 2m East, 3m South) Pick to a nearest metre and try not to pick one that's already been done. Winner takes.....bugger all. My best guess on Sojourner known last position is.... sojourner -4,-15 Now - this is only a guide and we will reproject these coords back onto the HiRISE map...so it's not what feature you think it's next to on that image...because that is very warped in places - it's how it seems on the HiRISE image. list djellison 2,-3 |
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Jan 11 2007, 09:49 PM
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I've tried putting the new topo map over the top of the pool 'sheet'....tried the HiRISE image on the sheet, and the overhead projections from the Pathfinder era just don't match up very well at all.
I always said I'd take just the numbers from the HiRISE imagery and consider the image on the Pool image to just be a 'guide' and not an actual reference..... but it's much harder than I expected to match them up. Every overlay I've done has put it with Mizar JUST ahead of Rakhir. If you look at the background image from the Pool itself - (which we said we wouldn't) Mizar got it bloody SPOT ON with Rakhir 2nd, SL 3rd. I think Mizar gets it - Rakhir very very closely second. Doug
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Jan 11 2007, 10:09 PM
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Member Group: Senior Member Posts: 136 Joined: 8-August 06 Member No.: 1022 |
QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 11 2007, 01:49 PM)  I've tried putting the new topo map over the top of the pool 'sheet'....tried the HiRISE image on the sheet, and the overhead projections from the Pathfinder era just don't match up very well at all. I had a devil of a time getting the overhead projections to line up with the HiRISE image as well. But the USGS topomap registers pretty well (with some mismatches visible in the 20m square version). I had to blink the various products back and forth for quite some time in order to "convince" myself that the bump south of the lander is likely Sojourner. I'm pretty sure it is, but I won't stake my life on it.  -Tim. |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (tim53 @ Jan 11 2007, 11:09 PM) I had to blink the various products back and forth for quite some time in order to "convince" myself that the bump south of the lander is likely Sojourner. I'm pretty sure it is, but I won't stake my life on it. -Tim. You'd better not. I'll wait next pass to get 3D and be sure she's not still wandering around
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djellison The Sojourner Pool Dec 11 2006, 08:28 PM
AlexBlackwell I'm going closer to the ramp: 0, -3 Dec 11 2006, 08:35 PM ElkGroveDan I've got (10, -10) Dec 11 2006, 08:40 PM
mhoward -4,-12 Dec 11 2006, 08:47 PM AlexBlackwell I see a definite dichotomy of opinion here: those ... Dec 11 2006, 09:14 PM Adam -4, 0 Dec 11 2006, 09:23 PM akuo Sojourner is where they left it, so according to D... Dec 11 2006, 09:25 PM Rakhir 2, -5 Dec 11 2006, 09:29 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Rakhir @ Dec 11 2006, 01:29 PM) 2,... Dec 11 2006, 09:35 PM Nix 0,-8 Dec 11 2006, 09:37 PM jamescanvin 5, -4 Dec 11 2006, 09:42 PM ustrax Doug! You have jumped off the fence!
-... Dec 11 2006, 09:55 PM climber Let me take risks : Out of quadrant for me. Is tha... Dec 11 2006, 10:00 PM Sunspot All the good spots have been taken lol.... so i... Dec 11 2006, 10:19 PM djellison QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 11 2006, 10:19 PM) A... Dec 11 2006, 10:30 PM djellison I think we can say 'out of area' with a be... Dec 11 2006, 10:29 PM climber QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 11 2006, 11:29 PM)... Dec 12 2006, 09:09 AM ugordan Out of area, NW. Dec 12 2006, 09:21 AM dvandorn My guess is that Sojourner is out of frame to the ... Dec 11 2006, 11:52 PM djellison I may have got some wrong. Ustrax is our 'spe... Dec 12 2006, 12:14 AM PDP8E O, -18
smooth road south Dec 12 2006, 12:38 AM tim53 Considering the propagation of error in the rover... Dec 12 2006, 12:43 AM AlexBlackwell QUOTE (tim53 @ Dec 11 2006, 02:43 PM) Con... Dec 12 2006, 01:05 AM djellison If someone can identify Wedge and Hassock....those... Dec 12 2006, 01:17 AM hendric I vote 2,14, just to be different. Hopefully some ... Dec 12 2006, 03:42 AM Airbag (-3, -13)
Airbag Dec 12 2006, 04:00 AM gpurcell 0, 6 just to be different Dec 12 2006, 04:00 AM mchan 5, 3 Dec 12 2006, 05:14 AM tuvas pi, -pi, just to be REALLY different. Dec 12 2006, 05:19 AM Comga Now isn't that Sojourner at -5.5, -7.5? At wh... Dec 12 2006, 05:47 AM MizarKey Put me down at 1,-5 Dec 12 2006, 06:25 AM alan 6 , -10 Dec 12 2006, 06:56 AM volcanopele I'll go against the grain, I'll go with +1... Dec 12 2006, 07:34 AM Sunspot Isn't this the rovers final known position, in... Dec 12 2006, 10:17 AM Tesheiner 0, -12 Dec 12 2006, 10:25 AM Astrophil Wedge and Hassock are to the south - mapped at
ht... Dec 12 2006, 10:28 AM djellison No - a panorama is no use - we'll have a HiRIS... Dec 12 2006, 10:35 AM helvick Oooh - Put me down for 5, -14 then. Dec 12 2006, 10:54 AM ustrax QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 12 2006, 10:35 AM)... Dec 12 2006, 10:55 AM AlexBlackwell QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 12 2006, 12:35 AM)... Dec 12 2006, 08:02 PM Sunspot OK i'll go for: -14, -1 Dec 12 2006, 10:59 AM AndyG -8, 8. ...For sure.
Andy Dec 12 2006, 01:49 PM odave I don't think I've been in a pool yet, so ... Dec 12 2006, 02:08 PM Michael Capobianco -4, +14. There's a nice little cul-de-sac ther... Dec 12 2006, 02:55 PM Ant103 Hummm,
For me? -12, -17. Dec 12 2006, 05:34 PM MarsEngineer Hi Doug and gang,
Stay tuned, we should be seeing... Dec 17 2006, 06:53 PM climber QUOTE (MarsEngineer @ Dec 17 2006, 07:53 ... Dec 17 2006, 08:01 PM Sunspot So we might see something this coming Wednesday? Dec 18 2006, 01:41 PM tuvas QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 18 2006, 06:41 AM) S... Dec 18 2006, 02:37 PM Tesheiner QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 18 2006, 03:37 PM) ...... Dec 18 2006, 03:08 PM nprev Oh, heck, why not...-4, -8. Dec 18 2006, 04:39 PM AlexBlackwell What would be wild is if HiRISE's resolution i... Dec 18 2006, 07:47 PM tuvas QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Dec 18 2006, 12:47... Dec 18 2006, 08:04 PM AlexBlackwell QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 18 2006, 10:04 AM) I... Dec 18 2006, 08:11 PM edstrick I'm having a fantasy where they take two pics ... Dec 19 2006, 09:15 AM Sunspot If the rover is not in the same position,, I think... Dec 19 2006, 09:28 AM ugordan Same position as? Dec 19 2006, 09:29 AM Sunspot In front of Chimp Dec 19 2006, 09:32 AM ugordan If there's color coverage of the spot where So... Dec 19 2006, 09:37 AM tuvas QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 19 2006, 02:37 AM) I... Dec 19 2006, 05:33 PM ugordan QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 19 2006, 06:33 PM) if ... Dec 19 2006, 07:19 PM djellison QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 19 2006, 07:19 PM) M... Dec 21 2006, 08:25 AM ugordan QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 21 2006, 09:25 AM)... Dec 21 2006, 09:27 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 21 2006, 12:25 AM)... Dec 21 2006, 04:32 PM tim53 Doug:
Wasn't it you who posted a pic of what ... Dec 23 2006, 11:51 PM Sunspot 10 Years of dust accumulation may have turned it o... Dec 19 2006, 04:54 PM tim53 Remember that the color channels are typically bin... Dec 21 2006, 12:14 AM djellison Yup - 'twas I...
http://www.unmannedspaceflig... Dec 24 2006, 12:09 AM alan Any chance of getting an answer this week? Jan 1 2007, 11:36 PM djellison By my best estimate - Sojourner is estimated to be... Jan 10 2007, 11:24 PM tuvas QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 10 2007, 04:24 PM)... Jan 11 2007, 08:49 PM AlexBlackwell So who won the pool?
See also this release. Jan 11 2007, 08:25 PM elakdawalla This may help a little with your map, Doug -- an u... Jan 11 2007, 08:37 PM AlexBlackwell See Emily's blog entry, too. Jan 11 2007, 08:41 PM djellison Tim - do you mean this one
http://www.solarviews.c... Jan 11 2007, 11:30 PM djellison Non-pool specific stuff I'm moving to here...
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