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MSL Naming?
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post Dec 27 2006, 11:14 AM
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Amen, though perhaps Bagnold might be a good name for the first Martian DuneBuggy.

I continue to wonder what traction performance improvement they expect in loose sandy material over the MER rovers. It would be trancendentally sucky if the skycrane plopped the MSL down in the middle of a sand-sheet filled crater and it sank up to over it's wheel-hubs.
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post Dec 27 2006, 03:36 PM
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post Dec 27 2006, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE (JonClarke @ Dec 27 2006, 02:18 AM) *
Ralph Bagnold was a remarkable man...


I'd love to see the MSL named "Ralph"!
A great down to Earth (or Mars) name
for a hard working rover.
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post Dec 28 2006, 01:04 AM
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Glad that Bagnold meets with approval smile.gif However, if past missions are a guide, it will be called "Inspiration" or some such, chosen by a 10 year old in the boondocks.

I don't know how MSL will go over sand. The critical issue is ground pressure. One Bagnold anecdote illustrates this. In his early traverses of the Great Sand Sea he discovered that 2 wheel drive vehicles were often superior in their ability to cross sand to their 4WD equivalents because of their lower weight. Does anyone know what the ground presure of MSL is compared to a MER?

I note with great respect MahFL's grandfather. The LRDG were legendary.

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post Dec 28 2006, 08:25 PM
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RALPH (Roving Analytic Laboratory Pursuing Hydrocarbons)

Though the New Horizons folks might get a bit miffed....


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post Dec 28 2006, 08:45 PM
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Ambulatory Laboratory for In-situ Carbon Compound Examination (ALICCE)...? tongue.gif


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post Dec 28 2006, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 28 2006, 08:45 PM) *
Ambulatory Laboratory for In-situ Carbon Compound Examination (ALICCE)...? tongue.gif


I still get worried about semi-intelligent rovers with the 'ATHENA' brand. Read Arthur C Clarke's 'Lost Worlds of 2001' and you'll see why! Oh, and the original Shuttle five on-board computers were called HAL, were they not (designed to be faultless). Asking for trouble, I'd say...


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Carbon And Regolith Laboratory/Semi-Autonomous Ground Ambulator-Navigator? smile.gif


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post Dec 29 2006, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 28 2006, 08:25 PM) *
RALPH (Roving Analytic Laboratory Pursuing Hydrocarbons)


Love it!!!! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 29 2006, 04:42 PM
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I would go for a more general name like Spirit and Opportunity that, at a same time, would pay tribute to those who live in our North Pole and who were, probably, the first ones to reach it.
I would go for an Inuit word: Ilitsijaqturvik (Which, of course, could be reduced to Ili, or Ilitsi...or Ilitsija...a female name for a vessel...) that means a place to go and learn... wink.gif


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post Dec 29 2006, 06:55 PM
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post Dec 29 2006, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 29 2006, 04:42 PM) *


Aaaarghhh!!!

This was a suggestion for Phoenix!!! huh.gif
Let me think a bit about MSL...but I believe that knowing where she's going to land would help a lot... wink.gif


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post Dec 30 2006, 04:41 PM
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MSL?...
Michelle, no doubt about it... smile.gif [MiSheLle for the purists...)
Inspiration straight from a woman out of this world... rolleyes.gif

EDITED: Hey! This was my 1001st post (where's the 1000? blink.gif)! And...incredibly...I didn't mention an abyss!!! tongue.gif
This deserves a prize Doug! biggrin.gif


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post Jan 1 2007, 12:28 AM
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I perfer no name other than the project name. MSL is fine with me. The rovers on Mars are still MER A & B to me. SIRTF vs Spitzer etc
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I can dig it, Jim...but there are two excellent reasons to name major missions:

1. Public outreach. This is something that NASA has consistently underestimated in significance, but they're getting hip- no bucks, no Buck Rogers. While aficionados like myself & professionals like you may prefer functional nomenclature for its brevity & precision, the press likes sound bites, the catchier & easier the better. Sad fact of life, man. wink.gif

2. History/heraldry. UMSF is making major tracks in the history books. Hopefully, its contributions will be recognized as even more important over the next few hundred years as we (hopefully) expand human presence throughout the Solar System. Therefore, it is entirely appropriate to name these robotic pioneers after the human pioneers that laid the foundation for these critical voyages, or the ideals/concepts that represent the best of our collective human spirit.


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