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2006XG1, another Torino 1 NEO (for now)
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post Dec 26 2006, 10:17 PM
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Here's a Christmas present for us all...a 0.7 km NEO may make a 4200 km altitude Earth flyby on Halloween, 2041: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/2006xg1.html


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post Dec 27 2006, 01:54 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure that will be the case. I noticed that the NASA NEO site already had 76 observations logged between 11-22 Dec; it must be very favorably placed, so we should see it drop off the radar screen after the holidays.

Good thing, too. 1900 megatons of impact energy could be a bit unpleasant. With that in mind, does anybody think that we should get serious about devising a way to deflect these things, if it's ever needed? I like the idea of "docking" a DS1-style propulsion system to a threatening rock & steering it clear...or, ideally, steering it slowly into an exploitable orbit for future mining! smile.gif

And on a somewhat related topic, is there anything at all we could do about an imminent long-period comet impact? I can't think of a single countermeasure. (Okay, I confess...I rented the classic When Worlds Collide two days ago, and it's been bugging me ever since... rolleyes.gif )


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post Dec 27 2006, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 27 2006, 02:54 AM) *
And on a somewhat related topic, is there anything at all we could do about an imminent long-period comet impact? I can't think of a single countermeasure. (Okay, I confess...I rented the classic When Worlds Collide two days ago, and it's been bugging me ever since... rolleyes.gif )


I agree that the "gravitational tug" concept is the most promising when there is plenty of time to deflect an object. In the cometary case where only months may be available an Orion-style deflection using nuclear charges is probably the only remotely feasible method.

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post Dec 27 2006, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (tty @ Dec 27 2006, 10:23 AM) *
I agree that the "gravitational tug" concept is the most promising when there is plenty of time to deflect an object. In the cometary case where only months may be available an Orion-style deflection using nuclear charges is probably the only remotely feasible method.

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...and even then we'd probably have to try to severely fracture the nucleus al a Lucifer's Hammer in order to disperse the terminal impact energy. However, the Stardust results are kind of scary in this respect: at least some comets may be pretty mechanically solid instead of just big snowballs as we've assumed for many years... unsure.gif

On the lighter side, per the NASA NEO site 2006XG1 now has 99 observations under its belt, miss distance is now 0.72 Earth radii, the Palermo rating has decreased (good) as well as the estimated impact energy, and the sigma LOV now indicates much less certainty re the close-encounter trajectory: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/2006xg1.html


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post Dec 27 2006, 08:18 PM
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I wonder if a good long-term defense would be to try to give the Earth some Phobos-class satellites diverted into elliptical orbits from the asteroid belt. Then stop an incoming impactor by moving the blocker into the way. The advantage is that you wouldn't have to launch any "solutions" out into solar orbit all of a sudden as the threat arose. Disadvantages abound, of course, including debris from the pre-collision and the threat of just plain missing.

The "push" strategies for dealing with a short-period threat, of course, leave the menace there to eventually swing back towards Earth after decades or centuries. A strategy for dealing with those would be to push them into the Moon.
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- nprev   2006XG1   Dec 26 2006, 10:17 PM
- - volcanopele   hmm, I tried simulating this in Celestia, but even...   Dec 26 2006, 11:33 PM
|- - dilo   NeoDys gives only a close approach for another dat...   Dec 26 2006, 11:58 PM
- - nprev   Yeah, I'm sure that will be the case. I notice...   Dec 27 2006, 01:54 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 27 2006, 01:54 AM) 190...   Dec 27 2006, 08:59 AM
||- - RJG   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 27 2006, 08:59 AM) ...   Dec 27 2006, 06:50 PM
||- - tuvas   QUOTE (RJG @ Dec 27 2006, 11:50 AM) Can s...   Dec 27 2006, 06:57 PM
||- - RJG   Thanks Tuvas -sounds like lots of good reasons. Th...   Dec 27 2006, 07:09 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 27 2006, 02:54 AM) And...   Dec 27 2006, 06:23 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (tty @ Dec 27 2006, 10:23 AM) I agr...   Dec 27 2006, 07:22 PM
|- - JRehling   I wonder if a good long-term defense would be to t...   Dec 27 2006, 08:18 PM
|- - nprev   Interesting idea, JR, though I think trying for lu...   Dec 27 2006, 08:31 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 27 2006, 09:18 PM) ...   Dec 27 2006, 09:22 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 27 2006, 09:22 PM) A...   Dec 27 2006, 09:32 PM
- - tuvas   There is a very good reason why both ideas (Crashi...   Dec 27 2006, 09:10 PM
- - tty   You definitely do NOT want to use any violent tech...   Dec 28 2006, 12:37 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (tty @ Dec 28 2006, 01:37 AM) That,...   Dec 28 2006, 12:57 AM
|- - tty   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 28 2006, 01:57 AM) B...   Dec 28 2006, 02:02 PM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (tty @ Dec 28 2006, 07:02 AM) It is...   Dec 28 2006, 11:12 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 28 2006, 03:12 PM) As ...   Dec 28 2006, 11:28 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (tuvas @ Dec 29 2006, 12:12 AM) It ...   Dec 29 2006, 11:53 AM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 29 2006, 04:53 AM) W...   Dec 29 2006, 02:00 PM
|- - ugordan   If you're referring to the Mach stem where the...   Dec 29 2006, 02:59 PM
- - nprev   Actually, I meant putting threatening bodies in ac...   Dec 28 2006, 04:14 AM
|- - dilo   Agree with you, nprev. Also considering that, in o...   Dec 28 2006, 06:26 AM
- - nprev   Thanks, Dilo. I think it's prudent to save the...   Dec 28 2006, 09:35 AM
- - nprev   Personally, I think it'll be a long, long time...   Dec 28 2006, 11:05 PM
- - Nyx   This is my first post, so welcome everybody!...   Jan 1 2007, 11:59 PM
- - nprev   I think the jury's still out, but there's ...   Jan 2 2007, 12:57 AM


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