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Jan 3 2007, 07:37 PM
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Forwarding an email that was sent out today by Dmitri Titov, Venus Express PI. Cross reference with this UMSF thread.
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Jan 4 2007, 08:47 PM
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Oh - we all know that ESA is just utterly utterly crap out outreach. Just look at the efforts of people like Alan Stern, Steve Squyres, Marc Rayman, the HiBlog guys. Taking the time to fill us in - giving the tax payer a true sense of what these missions are about, what they're doing, why they're doing it etc etc. Now show me a single European PI or Co-I or infact just about anyone doing an ounce of that.
Yes - the Cassini team, outside of Ciclops and perhaps Radar is lacking, MSSS are dragging their feet with MARCI and CTX - does MCS even work, - but those are blots on an otherwise very good and indeed improving record. ESA's record is just a big blot from top to bottom. Difficulty is that because ESA is the managerial equiv. of distributed computing - there being no answerable central outreach or educational body involved, no obligation (and absolutely NO money) for each instrument team to do any of this...and worse still there isn't actually anywhere to go to complain about it. There isn't a PAO to moan at, or even a Politician to go to. I have emailed every single email address relating to HRSC that I can find regarding the release of DEM's ( I know as a fact that they are generated in near real time on the ground after data reception ) or even just map projected versions of all HRSC channels, which again, I know are sat on servers within the HRSC team's infrastructure. Not a single damn reply from anyone (and these are email addresses I know to be valid). When was the last time you heard anything from SPICAM or MARSIS or, indeed, anything on Venus Express apart from what, a small handfull of images. Where's the 'image of the week' or 'PI Perspective' - Where's Smart 1's images - it's just mind blowing that this stuff is not getting shown to the public. I have to stress to people when showing them HRSC pictures in the UK that they were taken by a European spacecraft...."really - I thought only the Americans did that". That...is unforgiveable. Doug |
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AlexBlackwell Venus Express: One Year in Orbit Jan 3 2007, 07:37 PM
JRehling [...] Jan 4 2007, 06:17 PM
Littlebit QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 4 2007, 11:17 AM) T... Jan 4 2007, 07:13 PM
Phil Stooke "VE is a failed mission."
On the contra... Jan 4 2007, 07:40 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 4 2007, 09:40 AM... Jan 4 2007, 08:16 PM
helvick True it is only a PR failure and apart from the PF... Jan 4 2007, 08:31 PM
djellison A PR failure - but not a failed mission by any str... Jan 4 2007, 08:09 PM
Littlebit QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 4 2007, 01:09 PM) ... Jan 4 2007, 08:55 PM
djellison Yes - but there IS someone to observe the event - ... Jan 4 2007, 08:59 PM
Bob Shaw I think that in the US the space community long ag... Jan 4 2007, 10:33 PM
JRehling [...] Jan 5 2007, 12:07 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 4 2007, 07:07 PM) I... Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM
djellison QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM) C... Jan 5 2007, 12:26 AM

JonClarke I have said this before and I am going to say this... Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM) ... Jan 5 2007, 10:07 PM

AlexBlackwell QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 11:51 AM) ... Jan 5 2007, 10:25 PM

djellison QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM) ... Jan 6 2007, 12:07 AM

JRehling QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM) ... Jan 7 2007, 07:32 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM) T... Jan 5 2007, 12:32 AM
JTN Since this old chestnut has come up again: I thoug... Jan 4 2007, 10:30 PM
remcook A question: who does all the outreach for the MERs... Jan 5 2007, 04:42 PM
nprev Doug & admins, please move this post as approp... Jan 8 2007, 03:29 AM
ollopa This discussion is more noise than information. C... Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM
ustrax QUOTE (ollopa @ Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM) Thi... Jan 9 2007, 02:52 PM

4th rock from the sun Let me dream a little, but part of the solution to... Jan 9 2007, 03:36 PM
djellison QUOTE (ollopa @ Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM) Thi... Jan 9 2007, 03:34 PM

ollopa [quote name='djellison' date='Jan 9 20... Jan 9 2007, 04:23 PM
JRehling [...] Jan 9 2007, 05:38 PM
ustrax QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 9 2007, 05:38 PM) B... Jan 9 2007, 05:49 PM
djellison QUOTE (ustrax @ Jan 9 2007, 05:49 PM) The... Jan 9 2007, 07:21 PM
djellison Outside the remit of outreach - but still a job it... Jan 9 2007, 05:05 PM
slinted I know there's no way of knowing how this woul... Jan 14 2007, 07:59 AM
J.J. I agree with others who say that the differences b... Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (J.J. @ Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM) To b... Jan 14 2007, 09:05 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (J.J. @ Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM) To b... Jan 15 2007, 09:35 PM
edstrick "have sites that look like they were designed... Jan 15 2007, 11:29 AM
remcook QUOTE Well, with Giotto and MEx there have been is... Jan 15 2007, 03:01 PM
dvandorn I'm unsure whether this observation should go ... Jan 15 2007, 04:07 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 15 2007, 04:07 PM) ... Jan 15 2007, 04:31 PM
AlexBlackwell The abstracts for this session are now online. Ch... Jan 30 2007, 12:57 AM
ustrax Does anyone need a job?...
A lot more here. Feb 14 2007, 12:34 PM![]() ![]() |
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