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Jan 3 2007, 07:37 PM
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Forwarding an email that was sent out today by Dmitri Titov, Venus Express PI. Cross reference with this UMSF thread.
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Jan 9 2007, 05:05 PM
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Outside the remit of outreach - but still a job it should be doing and isn't.
My point was that whatever picture they showed at AGU - it was not their 'first' - as they showed several in Valencia a couple of months before. I don't doubt the emense difficulty in doing that sort of thing and the effort and time required. This stuff is hard. Other missions are also doing hard things..AND doing a good job with outreach. It's a culture issue - it's just something ESA doesn't feel the need to do but to remain accountable to the taxpayer and indeed perhaps gain support for a bigger chunk of that tax to come their way....something it should do. There are data product that the wider science community would like, the enthusiasts would do good work with, and that exist, ready to go, sat on ESA servers.....but they just don't share them. As a program that is funded by the public, I believe that is very wrong. The means to share data and give people a sense of being involved in this adventures are more accesable, easier to deploy and indeed cheaper than ever before.....I can see no honest excuse as to why they should be avoided. It's unarguably the hottest debated subject here - and in some respects reminds me of the manned-v-unmanned-v-politics ones of old... unresolveable as two camps of opinion seem so polarised and sure of their opinion there can be neither concession nor middle ground. Doug |
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AlexBlackwell Venus Express: One Year in Orbit Jan 3 2007, 07:37 PM
JRehling [...] Jan 4 2007, 06:17 PM
Littlebit QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 4 2007, 11:17 AM) T... Jan 4 2007, 07:13 PM
Phil Stooke "VE is a failed mission."
On the contra... Jan 4 2007, 07:40 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 4 2007, 09:40 AM... Jan 4 2007, 08:16 PM
helvick True it is only a PR failure and apart from the PF... Jan 4 2007, 08:31 PM
djellison A PR failure - but not a failed mission by any str... Jan 4 2007, 08:09 PM
Littlebit QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 4 2007, 01:09 PM) ... Jan 4 2007, 08:55 PM
djellison Oh - we all know that ESA is just utterly utterly ... Jan 4 2007, 08:47 PM
djellison Yes - but there IS someone to observe the event - ... Jan 4 2007, 08:59 PM
Bob Shaw I think that in the US the space community long ag... Jan 4 2007, 10:33 PM
JRehling [...] Jan 5 2007, 12:07 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 4 2007, 07:07 PM) I... Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM
djellison QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM) C... Jan 5 2007, 12:26 AM

JonClarke I have said this before and I am going to say this... Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM

Bob Shaw QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM) ... Jan 5 2007, 10:07 PM

AlexBlackwell QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 11:51 AM) ... Jan 5 2007, 10:25 PM

djellison QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM) ... Jan 6 2007, 12:07 AM

JRehling QUOTE (JonClarke @ Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM) ... Jan 7 2007, 07:32 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 5 2007, 12:20 AM) T... Jan 5 2007, 12:32 AM
JTN Since this old chestnut has come up again: I thoug... Jan 4 2007, 10:30 PM
remcook A question: who does all the outreach for the MERs... Jan 5 2007, 04:42 PM
nprev Doug & admins, please move this post as approp... Jan 8 2007, 03:29 AM
ollopa This discussion is more noise than information. C... Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM
ustrax QUOTE (ollopa @ Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM) Thi... Jan 9 2007, 02:52 PM

4th rock from the sun Let me dream a little, but part of the solution to... Jan 9 2007, 03:36 PM
djellison QUOTE (ollopa @ Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM) Thi... Jan 9 2007, 03:34 PM

ollopa [quote name='djellison' date='Jan 9 20... Jan 9 2007, 04:23 PM
JRehling [...] Jan 9 2007, 05:38 PM
ustrax QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 9 2007, 05:38 PM) B... Jan 9 2007, 05:49 PM
djellison QUOTE (ustrax @ Jan 9 2007, 05:49 PM) The... Jan 9 2007, 07:21 PM
slinted I know there's no way of knowing how this woul... Jan 14 2007, 07:59 AM
J.J. I agree with others who say that the differences b... Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (J.J. @ Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM) To b... Jan 14 2007, 09:05 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (J.J. @ Jan 14 2007, 07:58 PM) To b... Jan 15 2007, 09:35 PM
edstrick "have sites that look like they were designed... Jan 15 2007, 11:29 AM
remcook QUOTE Well, with Giotto and MEx there have been is... Jan 15 2007, 03:01 PM
dvandorn I'm unsure whether this observation should go ... Jan 15 2007, 04:07 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 15 2007, 04:07 PM) ... Jan 15 2007, 04:31 PM
AlexBlackwell The abstracts for this session are now online. Ch... Jan 30 2007, 12:57 AM
ustrax Does anyone need a job?...
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