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Jan 8 2007, 07:15 PM
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I have just watched the BBC's report on the newly created 3D map of dark matter using Hubble data; and it made my heart sink.
I applaud the BBC for giving airtime to such discoveries, but for such a respected organisation their research was awful. It's no wonder the vast majority of people are either bewildered or disinterested the the universe as a whole when the facts they are given are completely wrong. It's a shame that tonight 60 million or so people in the UK and many other people around the world were told Hubble shone a beam of light out into the depths of the universe and studied how it was bent by the gravity of dark matter billions of light years away! And this was a report from the BBCs science correspondant! I remain downhearted that perhaps the most important story of the week was reported in such a shoddy manner. Does anyone else feel space is being let down by TV coverage? -------------------- It's a funny old world - A man's lucky if he gets out of it alive. - W.C. Fields.
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Jan 7 2008, 01:12 AM
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Another cool project for Google, methinks. Since there are more stars than people who have ever lived (or likely ever will), this has real outreach potential. Even an informal database on Google Sky might give a new impetus to skywatching. "Aunt Ethel is just to the right of Regulus. Whaddya mean you haven't heard of Regulus?"
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Jan 7 2008, 10:38 AM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Another cool project for Google, methinks. Since there are more stars than people who have ever lived (or likely ever will), this has real outreach potential. Even an informal database on Google Sky might give a new impetus to skywatching. "Aunt Ethel is just to the right of Regulus. Whaddya mean you haven't heard of Regulus?" ... except - as I understand it - all the stars these companies offer are far below naked eye visibility, so a Google-type database would be next to useless for people who a) don't know the sky, and This is something only people who have actually spent years looking at and studying the sky can understand, just how hard it is to find things in the sky. The bright stars might be obvious, but none of those are up for naming, only mega-faint stars are. So a Google-type database/interface thingy would have to be written in such a way as to give people who have no knowledge of the sky whatsoeever directions to "their" star. That means locating the constellation it's in by entering its exact co-ordinates. Then you'd need to determine that constellation's location in the sky... that constellation's visibility in the sky for that viewer (no point someone in New York looking for Crux Australis or Pavo, etc)... that constellation's visibility in the sky at that time of year if it is visible from their latitude (no point our New Yorker looking for Orion in July, etc). Then, with all those things tackled, you'd have to find a way to teach the viewer how to "star hop" from a bright nearby star to the area where their target star is, and then you'd have to help them distinguish that star from all the others. Sounds easy? Just pour some sugar or salt into your hand, tip it out onto a tabletop and look at it... ...that's what a starfield looks like through a telescope. The best astronomy outreach is still organising a star-watch or an eclipse-watch in a park or school field, getting together a whole bunch of amateur astronomers with telescopes, inviting the pubvlic, and then just showing people cool things in the night sky. Whenever we hold one here in Kendal I come away bouncing like Tigger, it's such a buzz. The looks on people's faces when they see a galaxy, or Saturn's rings, or the Moon's craters through a telescope for the first time is just incredible. And introducing people to the stars... pointing out Vega, Deneb and the Pole Star to them, helping them find Orion and Taurus in the sky, introducing them to the characters and legends behind Perseus, Andromeda etc, it's just magical, and as good as Google Sky gets it will never replace the experience of having someone stand with you on a cold and frosty night and tell you "See that star overhead? That's..." -------------------- |
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As old as Voyager Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science Jan 8 2007, 07:15 PM
Ames Yes I do! Don't get me started...
Only ... Jan 8 2007, 09:09 PM
Sunspot I saw that report too, without a doubt the worst p... Jan 8 2007, 10:37 PM
Stu Absolutely appalling and - after yesterday's ... Jan 8 2007, 10:51 PM
Bob Shaw The thing that worries me is that there must be ma... Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM

tedstryk QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM) T... Jan 9 2007, 01:39 AM

ugordan QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 9 2007, 12:10 AM) T... Jan 9 2007, 10:07 AM

4th rock from the sun It's not just the news that are incorrect and ... Jan 9 2007, 10:30 AM
ynyralmaen QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 8 2007, 11:51 PM) Unbeli... Jan 9 2007, 12:01 AM
Sunspot Quite a contrast the BBC online News report about ... Jan 8 2007, 11:49 PM
nprev Wow. I have to say that as an American I'm p... Jan 9 2007, 01:48 AM
climber QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 9 2007, 02:48 AM) Wow.... Jan 9 2007, 02:21 AM
Tesheiner QUOTE (climber @ Jan 9 2007, 03:21 AM) We... Jan 9 2007, 09:48 AM
TheChemist My latest Sunday newspaper included as a gift a Di... Jan 9 2007, 12:59 PM
ngunn Yes I saw that ridiculous dark matter report on BB... Jan 9 2007, 01:32 PM
Stu QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 9 2007, 01:32 PM) Yes ... Jan 9 2007, 03:50 PM

ngunn QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 9 2007, 03:50 PM) Yep. I... Jan 9 2007, 04:31 PM
ynyralmaen QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 9 2007, 02:32 PM) ... ... Jan 9 2007, 04:42 PM
ollopa They've pulled it.
However............
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AndyG Thanks, Ollopa, for posting the link.
I didn... Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM
Stu QUOTE (AndyG @ Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM) I r... Jan 10 2007, 09:12 AM
karolp Hello everyone,
I must admit that I stopped wathc... Jan 10 2007, 12:56 PM
Sunspot The weird thing is, they must have deliberately pl... Jan 9 2007, 05:33 PM
nprev ...wow. Thanks for the clip, ollopa; now I fully u... Jan 10 2007, 03:49 AM
mchan QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 9 2007, 07:49 PM) ...... Jan 11 2007, 07:04 AM
ElkGroveDan This one has always been one of my favorites: Jan 10 2007, 04:00 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jan 10 2007, 10:00 A... Jan 10 2007, 05:52 PM
ynyralmaen My favourite was in print, not on the telly...
Th... Jan 10 2007, 07:37 PM
nprev
You know, I'm still after all these years tr... Jan 11 2007, 04:05 AM
edstrick ".... just can't compete in the public... Jan 11 2007, 12:29 PM
Ames "Comet McNaught is passing close to the Sun, ... Jan 11 2007, 01:10 PM
MahFL I just read that also and was going to post it. An... Jan 11 2007, 03:05 PM
Jeff7 QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 11 2007, 08:10 AM) ... Jan 12 2007, 01:00 AM
mchan QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 11 2007, 05:10 AM) ... Jan 12 2007, 04:19 AM
djellison QUOTE (mchan @ Jan 12 2007, 04:19 AM) Tha... Jan 12 2007, 08:44 AM
nprev Mchan: Sadly, I think that most of these guys thin... Jan 12 2007, 04:42 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 12 2007, 04:42 AM) Mch... Jan 12 2007, 06:33 PM
edstrick "...A fav of mine is Pohl's The Space Mer... Jan 12 2007, 11:19 AM
Stu They replied to my complaint re the now infamous ... Jan 12 2007, 11:28 AM
djellison A total fob-off.
The problem isn't that they ... Jan 12 2007, 11:58 AM
MahFL Another one from Yahoo's slideshow....
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ngunn QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 12 2007, 12:12 PM) Ano... Jan 12 2007, 12:30 PM
edstrick This "Streaker" is clad only in long flo... Jan 12 2007, 01:41 PM
nprev ...yeah, I'm convinced that Franky lacked the ... Jan 12 2007, 07:27 PM
djellison QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 12 2007, 07:27 PM) Pre... Jan 19 2007, 12:35 PM
climber QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2007, 01:35 PM)... Jan 19 2007, 12:38 PM
nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2007, 04:35 AM)... Feb 9 2007, 02:25 PM
Steffen Newspapers even get the basics wrong, adding the w... Jan 19 2007, 12:29 PM
PhilCo126 Not Astronomy, but spaceflight this time ...
On 2... Jan 23 2007, 12:29 PM
Tesheiner A local newspaper published this monday an article... Jan 31 2007, 04:02 PM
djellison You would expect space daily to do better than put... Feb 9 2007, 01:19 PM
ngunn Yes you would, but...
Hands up anyone (other than... Feb 9 2007, 01:38 PM
dvandorn I have a slightly different issue to bring up, tho... Feb 14 2007, 11:58 PM
nprev Yeah...I've noticed that too.
I think they... Feb 15 2007, 12:14 AM
PhilCo126 Luckily there're some good programs around as ... Feb 15 2007, 08:13 PM
John Flushing QUOTE (As old as Voyager @ January 8th, 2007,... Mar 1 2007, 03:16 AM
ElkGroveDan This one's not TV but I though it deserved not... May 23 2007, 04:39 AM
Stu QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ May 23 2007, 05:39 A... May 23 2007, 05:28 AM
ElkGroveDan Here's a good one. I saved a pdf in the event... Oct 3 2007, 09:59 PM
nprev I was afraid of this. George Takei has cornered mo... Oct 3 2007, 10:20 PM
edstrick I keep hearing the news as the asteroid was RENAME... Oct 5 2007, 09:52 AM
Stu Don't know if any other UK viewers caught it, ... Jan 4 2008, 06:31 AM
tty QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 4 2008, 07:31 AM) Wow, h... Jan 4 2008, 07:03 AM
ngunn QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 4 2008, 06:31 AM) Don... Jan 4 2008, 01:42 PM
Mongo QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 4 2008, 01:42 PM) ... Jan 5 2008, 06:10 PM
Stu Off topic a wee bit, I know, but doesn't seem ... Jan 4 2008, 06:53 AM
nprev I'm waiting to see what will happen if the pot... Jan 5 2008, 06:23 PM
Stu QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 5 2008, 07:23 PM) BTW,... Apr 24 2008, 04:24 PM
laurele QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 24 2008, 12:24 PM) Resur... Apr 24 2008, 05:47 PM
hendric Will all the deep surveys going starting up, I... Jan 6 2008, 04:09 AM
nprev Oh, crap...dude, PLEASE no!!!! I... Jan 6 2008, 04:31 AM
Stu At first glance this is quite an amusing subject, ... Jan 6 2008, 08:38 AM
nprev ...thanks for the wake-up call, Stu. Did not reali... Jan 6 2008, 02:13 PM
lyford In my wild and impetuous youth I did this for my f... Jan 6 2008, 06:27 PM
Stu I try not to crush people when I tell them the tru... Jan 6 2008, 07:44 PM
lyford QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 6 2008, 11:44 AM) Still,... Jan 6 2008, 08:31 PM
nprev Hate to say it, but the continuing & widesprea... Jan 6 2008, 08:46 PM
lyford Good idea, nprev.
You know I just realized the di... Jan 6 2008, 09:50 PM
djellison I know of a case where a family 'named a star... Jan 6 2008, 10:00 PM
Stu QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 6 2008, 10:00 PM) ... Jan 6 2008, 11:32 PM
nprev To say nothing of the embarassment once they reali... Jan 7 2008, 12:27 AM
akuo QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 7 2008, 10:38 AM) The br... Jan 7 2008, 11:51 AM
Stu QUOTE (akuo @ Jan 7 2008, 11:51 AM) Not s... Jan 7 2008, 12:30 PM
nprev QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 7 2008, 04:30 AM) Well, ... Jan 7 2008, 12:49 PM
gndonald Not really from the Television Media, but somethin... Jan 12 2008, 03:19 PM
dvandorn Reminds me of the only morbid chuckle I came acros... Jan 12 2008, 05:10 PM
nprev "C: It's not just a good idea, it's t... Jan 12 2008, 05:45 PM
ElkGroveDan Avalanche Photographed on Mars
By SPACE.com staff,... Mar 4 2008, 06:32 AM
nprev Dan, think I'd have to call that hilariously i... Mar 4 2008, 06:42 AM
elakdawalla um, nprev, I hate to say it, but I think Dan was r... Mar 4 2008, 06:43 AM
nprev QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 3 2008, 10:43 PM... Mar 4 2008, 01:40 PM
As old as Voyager A little off topic, but an inaccuracy nonetheless.... Mar 4 2008, 09:39 AM
centsworth_II Porno at CERN
"The claim is that... the LHC m... Mar 12 2008, 11:40 PM
gndonald I've picked up the April 2008 edition of APC (... Apr 1 2008, 03:10 PM
volcanopele Io is my moon. It's mine. I own it.
I g... Apr 24 2008, 06:24 PM
nprev Why not? I'm certain that the IAU would put ... Apr 25 2008, 12:21 AM
ElkGroveDan I think it's a bad idea. Once you start bring... Apr 25 2008, 02:17 AM
nprev Hmmm...persuasive, Dan.
I may be being naive abo... Apr 25 2008, 02:52 AM![]() ![]() |
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