Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science |
Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science |
Jan 8 2007, 07:15 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 7-December 06 From: Sheffield UK Member No.: 1462 |
I have just watched the BBC's report on the newly created 3D map of dark matter using Hubble data; and it made my heart sink.
I applaud the BBC for giving airtime to such discoveries, but for such a respected organisation their research was awful. It's no wonder the vast majority of people are either bewildered or disinterested the the universe as a whole when the facts they are given are completely wrong. It's a shame that tonight 60 million or so people in the UK and many other people around the world were told Hubble shone a beam of light out into the depths of the universe and studied how it was bent by the gravity of dark matter billions of light years away! And this was a report from the BBCs science correspondant! I remain downhearted that perhaps the most important story of the week was reported in such a shoddy manner. Does anyone else feel space is being let down by TV coverage? -------------------- It's a funny old world - A man's lucky if he gets out of it alive. - W.C. Fields.
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Jan 6 2008, 08:38 AM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5546 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
At first glance this is quite an amusing subject, I know, but for us "community astronomers" the whole star-naming thing is a nightmare, and worse than that it actually causes some people quite a lot of hurt.
Several large national retailers were offering "Name A Star" gift boxes for Christmas presents this year in the UK, and I had - as usual - a dozen or so phone calls, or conversations with people in the street or at work, with people either asking me if they should name a star after a loved one, or telling me they'd already bought one for someone, and I had to tell them that, as lovely an idea as this is, it is a total waste of money, because no-one has the right to offer star names for sale. It's not illegal, but I could set myself up in business and charge people to have a blade of grass by Kendal Castle or a grain of sand on Arnside beach named after them or a loved one and it would be just as "official" as offering to name a star for them. Some people take this news in their stride, and just decide not to go ahead with the present and buy a book token or something, others get angry that they might have been conned. The ones who have already "bought a star" are usually either gutted or angry, or both. But worse are the phone calls I get from people at other times of the year from people who want to know if I can come around to where they live and show them, and/or their family, the star they have had named after someone who's died. I've had children calling asking me to show them where the star they named after their mother or father is, grandparents asking where the star is they've named after a dead grandchild, husbands and wives wanting to see the star named after their deceased partner, it's just awful to have to tell them that... well, to have to tell them the truth. This really annoys me, and has done for years, because people buy these "stars" in good faith, often for a loved one as a romantic gift, thinking they can take them outside on a clear night and, standing there arm in arm or hand in hand, show them "their star". That’s not possible because the stars on offer are all far, far below naked eye visibility. Other people “buy star names” in memory of someone who's died, thinking it will somehow immortalise them. It doesn't; that star would only bear the buyer’s chosen name on a list in that company's database, not on any official star catalogue or registry that astronomers or scientists use. Patrick Moore will never mention “Irene’s Star” on The Sky at Night, Neil deGrasse Tyseon will never mention “Tiddles’ Star” in one of his books because the names are 100000% unofficial. One of the companies does say this on its website: “Will astronomers call the star by its new name? No. In professional astronomical and scientific circles the star you name will be referred to either by telescope co-ordinates or by identity number.” but of course it's buried away in the small print in these packages and people have already paid for the thing by then, so it's too late. So yes, this is amusing at first thought, but when you've had someone break down in tears at a "skywatch" event when they've found out that the star they "named" after their beloved grandmother isn't actually theirs at all, it isn't quite so funny. And that's why I hate the whole star-naming thing. It's just wrong. -------------------- |
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As old as Voyager Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science Jan 8 2007, 07:15 PM
Ames Yes I do! Don't get me started...
Only ... Jan 8 2007, 09:09 PM
Sunspot I saw that report too, without a doubt the worst p... Jan 8 2007, 10:37 PM
Stu Absolutely appalling and - after yesterday's ... Jan 8 2007, 10:51 PM
Bob Shaw The thing that worries me is that there must be ma... Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM

tedstryk QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM) T... Jan 9 2007, 01:39 AM

ugordan QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 9 2007, 12:10 AM) T... Jan 9 2007, 10:07 AM

4th rock from the sun It's not just the news that are incorrect and ... Jan 9 2007, 10:30 AM
ynyralmaen QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 8 2007, 11:51 PM) Unbeli... Jan 9 2007, 12:01 AM
Sunspot Quite a contrast the BBC online News report about ... Jan 8 2007, 11:49 PM
nprev Wow. I have to say that as an American I'm p... Jan 9 2007, 01:48 AM
climber QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 9 2007, 02:48 AM) Wow.... Jan 9 2007, 02:21 AM
Tesheiner QUOTE (climber @ Jan 9 2007, 03:21 AM) We... Jan 9 2007, 09:48 AM
TheChemist My latest Sunday newspaper included as a gift a Di... Jan 9 2007, 12:59 PM
ngunn Yes I saw that ridiculous dark matter report on BB... Jan 9 2007, 01:32 PM
Stu QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 9 2007, 01:32 PM) Yes ... Jan 9 2007, 03:50 PM

ngunn QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 9 2007, 03:50 PM) Yep. I... Jan 9 2007, 04:31 PM
ynyralmaen QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 9 2007, 02:32 PM) ... ... Jan 9 2007, 04:42 PM
ollopa They've pulled it.
However............
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AndyG Thanks, Ollopa, for posting the link.
I didn... Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM
Stu QUOTE (AndyG @ Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM) I r... Jan 10 2007, 09:12 AM
karolp Hello everyone,
I must admit that I stopped wathc... Jan 10 2007, 12:56 PM
Sunspot The weird thing is, they must have deliberately pl... Jan 9 2007, 05:33 PM
nprev ...wow. Thanks for the clip, ollopa; now I fully u... Jan 10 2007, 03:49 AM
mchan QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 9 2007, 07:49 PM) ...... Jan 11 2007, 07:04 AM
ElkGroveDan This one has always been one of my favorites: Jan 10 2007, 04:00 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jan 10 2007, 10:00 A... Jan 10 2007, 05:52 PM
ynyralmaen My favourite was in print, not on the telly...
Th... Jan 10 2007, 07:37 PM
nprev
You know, I'm still after all these years tr... Jan 11 2007, 04:05 AM
edstrick ".... just can't compete in the public... Jan 11 2007, 12:29 PM
Ames "Comet McNaught is passing close to the Sun, ... Jan 11 2007, 01:10 PM
MahFL I just read that also and was going to post it. An... Jan 11 2007, 03:05 PM
Jeff7 QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 11 2007, 08:10 AM) ... Jan 12 2007, 01:00 AM
mchan QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 11 2007, 05:10 AM) ... Jan 12 2007, 04:19 AM
djellison QUOTE (mchan @ Jan 12 2007, 04:19 AM) Tha... Jan 12 2007, 08:44 AM
nprev Mchan: Sadly, I think that most of these guys thin... Jan 12 2007, 04:42 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 12 2007, 04:42 AM) Mch... Jan 12 2007, 06:33 PM
edstrick "...A fav of mine is Pohl's The Space Mer... Jan 12 2007, 11:19 AM
Stu They replied to my complaint re the now infamous ... Jan 12 2007, 11:28 AM
djellison A total fob-off.
The problem isn't that they ... Jan 12 2007, 11:58 AM
MahFL Another one from Yahoo's slideshow....
... Jan 12 2007, 12:12 PM
ngunn QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 12 2007, 12:12 PM) Ano... Jan 12 2007, 12:30 PM
edstrick This "Streaker" is clad only in long flo... Jan 12 2007, 01:41 PM
nprev ...yeah, I'm convinced that Franky lacked the ... Jan 12 2007, 07:27 PM
djellison QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 12 2007, 07:27 PM) Pre... Jan 19 2007, 12:35 PM
climber QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2007, 01:35 PM)... Jan 19 2007, 12:38 PM
nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2007, 04:35 AM)... Feb 9 2007, 02:25 PM
Steffen Newspapers even get the basics wrong, adding the w... Jan 19 2007, 12:29 PM
PhilCo126 Not Astronomy, but spaceflight this time ...
On 2... Jan 23 2007, 12:29 PM
Tesheiner A local newspaper published this monday an article... Jan 31 2007, 04:02 PM
djellison You would expect space daily to do better than put... Feb 9 2007, 01:19 PM
ngunn Yes you would, but...
Hands up anyone (other than... Feb 9 2007, 01:38 PM
dvandorn I have a slightly different issue to bring up, tho... Feb 14 2007, 11:58 PM
nprev Yeah...I've noticed that too.
I think they... Feb 15 2007, 12:14 AM
PhilCo126 Luckily there're some good programs around as ... Feb 15 2007, 08:13 PM
John Flushing QUOTE (As old as Voyager @ January 8th, 2007,... Mar 1 2007, 03:16 AM
ElkGroveDan This one's not TV but I though it deserved not... May 23 2007, 04:39 AM
Stu QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ May 23 2007, 05:39 A... May 23 2007, 05:28 AM
ElkGroveDan Here's a good one. I saved a pdf in the event... Oct 3 2007, 09:59 PM
nprev I was afraid of this. George Takei has cornered mo... Oct 3 2007, 10:20 PM
edstrick I keep hearing the news as the asteroid was RENAME... Oct 5 2007, 09:52 AM
Stu Don't know if any other UK viewers caught it, ... Jan 4 2008, 06:31 AM
tty QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 4 2008, 07:31 AM) Wow, h... Jan 4 2008, 07:03 AM
ngunn QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 4 2008, 06:31 AM) Don... Jan 4 2008, 01:42 PM
Mongo QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 4 2008, 01:42 PM) ... Jan 5 2008, 06:10 PM
Stu Off topic a wee bit, I know, but doesn't seem ... Jan 4 2008, 06:53 AM
nprev I'm waiting to see what will happen if the pot... Jan 5 2008, 06:23 PM
Stu QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 5 2008, 07:23 PM) BTW,... Apr 24 2008, 04:24 PM
laurele QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 24 2008, 12:24 PM) Resur... Apr 24 2008, 05:47 PM
hendric Will all the deep surveys going starting up, I... Jan 6 2008, 04:09 AM
nprev Oh, crap...dude, PLEASE no!!!! I... Jan 6 2008, 04:31 AM
nprev ...thanks for the wake-up call, Stu. Did not reali... Jan 6 2008, 02:13 PM
lyford In my wild and impetuous youth I did this for my f... Jan 6 2008, 06:27 PM
Stu I try not to crush people when I tell them the tru... Jan 6 2008, 07:44 PM
lyford QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 6 2008, 11:44 AM) Still,... Jan 6 2008, 08:31 PM
nprev Hate to say it, but the continuing & widesprea... Jan 6 2008, 08:46 PM
lyford Good idea, nprev.
You know I just realized the di... Jan 6 2008, 09:50 PM
djellison I know of a case where a family 'named a star... Jan 6 2008, 10:00 PM
Stu QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 6 2008, 10:00 PM) ... Jan 6 2008, 11:32 PM
nprev To say nothing of the embarassment once they reali... Jan 7 2008, 12:27 AM
ollopa Another cool project for Google, methinks. Since ... Jan 7 2008, 01:12 AM
Stu QUOTE (ollopa @ Jan 7 2008, 01:12 AM) Ano... Jan 7 2008, 10:38 AM
akuo QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 7 2008, 10:38 AM) The br... Jan 7 2008, 11:51 AM
Stu QUOTE (akuo @ Jan 7 2008, 11:51 AM) Not s... Jan 7 2008, 12:30 PM
nprev QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 7 2008, 04:30 AM) Well, ... Jan 7 2008, 12:49 PM
gndonald Not really from the Television Media, but somethin... Jan 12 2008, 03:19 PM
dvandorn Reminds me of the only morbid chuckle I came acros... Jan 12 2008, 05:10 PM
nprev "C: It's not just a good idea, it's t... Jan 12 2008, 05:45 PM
ElkGroveDan Avalanche Photographed on Mars
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nprev Dan, think I'd have to call that hilariously i... Mar 4 2008, 06:42 AM
elakdawalla um, nprev, I hate to say it, but I think Dan was r... Mar 4 2008, 06:43 AM
nprev QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 3 2008, 10:43 PM... Mar 4 2008, 01:40 PM
As old as Voyager A little off topic, but an inaccuracy nonetheless.... Mar 4 2008, 09:39 AM
centsworth_II Porno at CERN
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gndonald I've picked up the April 2008 edition of APC (... Apr 1 2008, 03:10 PM
volcanopele Io is my moon. It's mine. I own it.
I g... Apr 24 2008, 06:24 PM
nprev Why not? I'm certain that the IAU would put ... Apr 25 2008, 12:21 AM
ElkGroveDan I think it's a bad idea. Once you start bring... Apr 25 2008, 02:17 AM
nprev Hmmm...persuasive, Dan.
I may be being naive abo... Apr 25 2008, 02:52 AM![]() ![]() |
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