Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science |
Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science |
Jan 8 2007, 07:15 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 7-December 06 From: Sheffield UK Member No.: 1462 |
I have just watched the BBC's report on the newly created 3D map of dark matter using Hubble data; and it made my heart sink.
I applaud the BBC for giving airtime to such discoveries, but for such a respected organisation their research was awful. It's no wonder the vast majority of people are either bewildered or disinterested the the universe as a whole when the facts they are given are completely wrong. It's a shame that tonight 60 million or so people in the UK and many other people around the world were told Hubble shone a beam of light out into the depths of the universe and studied how it was bent by the gravity of dark matter billions of light years away! And this was a report from the BBCs science correspondant! I remain downhearted that perhaps the most important story of the week was reported in such a shoddy manner. Does anyone else feel space is being let down by TV coverage? -------------------- It's a funny old world - A man's lucky if he gets out of it alive. - W.C. Fields.
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Jan 9 2007, 04:42 PM
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Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 25-November 04 From: Dublin, Ireland Member No.: 113 |
They've pulled it.
However............ ............to enjoy this gem again, simply paste the following into your browser and it should open in Windows Media Player. Quick - while stocks last! http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/vide...046_16x9_nb.asx (Poor Andy Coates - NOT his fault, of course!) |
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Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 565 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 279 |
Thanks, Ollopa, for posting the link.
I didn't see it live, and was trying to put off watching it until I'd summed up the courage: but now I see that it's one of those things - like moments in Fawlty Towers - which are just so embarassingly awful that I cringed while seeing it. Toe-curling, "please make it stop" comedy. I rather hope there's been a dreadful misinterpretation of a more technical press release: perhaps with a title something like "Hubble shines light on the Universe's dark matter". But flip. That's awful. E- ...And I'm being generous. Andy |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:12 AM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5546 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I rather hope there's been a dreadful misinterpretation of a more technical press release: perhaps with a title something like "Hubble shines light on the Universe's dark matter". No, that's not going to wash. The guy was a "science correspondent", he gets paid for reporting science news stories. The story didn't break at five to 6, it was all over the net 24hrs earlier, so all he had to do was go online and read the info while having a cup of coffee. During the afternoon I put together a 30 slide Powerpoint presentation on the item for my astro society meeting that night, with consideably less resources than the BBC has. Hubble has been up there since (gulp!) 1991, and there can't be many people who don't know that it takes pretty pictures, so is a CAMERA, and cameras COLLECT light, they don't shoot it out of their lenses. This was lazy, poor and frankly stupid reporting, and it shouldn't be just dismissed as silly. The BBC is publicly funded over here through the licence fee, we have no choice - unless we want to sample prison food - but to pay the annual fee, even if we don't particularly want to watch so-called celebrities poncing around ballroom floors in acres of swishing taffeta, or standing beside has-been singers murdering our favourite songs, or sit through humour-free episodes of "My Family" or other shows. Every year the Beeb takes over £100 from me, and although I can't say it's not worth it - I get to listen to 5 Live while I sit here writing, and get to see The Sky At Dawn, and Spooks - it's episodes like this that make me genuinely angry. I'm giving a talk to a Women's Institute meeting tonight in a tiny village hall in the wilds of Cumbria. There'll be maybe 10 people there, plus as many bourbons as I can eat and as much tea as I can drink. It's people like that who rely on the BBC and other broadcasters to inform them accurately. They were told that a telescope shot a beam of light out to the edge of the universe. Some will have believed it, because, well, come on, it was on the BBC News... I'll have to set them straight tonight, when they ask about it, as they surely will. I don't mind, but I shouldn't have to set them straight because it's not my job to, it's the science correspondent's job. God help us when we finally find life on Mars, or receive a SETI signal. -------------------- |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:56 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 147 Joined: 14-April 06 From: Berlin Member No.: 744 |
Hello everyone,
I must admit that I stopped wathching ANY tv about 5 years ago. But a year ago I was still downloading the Polish headline news off the internet as an *.asf file. And in January '06 they told the 40 M people here in their prime time edition that the Stardust spacecraft sampled the comet by firing a probe towards it. And the name of the probe was... Deep Impact. How about that? And similarly to the BBC, the ONLINE reports issued the same day were well researched and NOT inaccurate. I guess the "internet" people tend to have a better background in sci tech than the "screen" people they employ. And by the way, to cheer up a bit - presenting sci tech on tv also has some positive aspects to it. I noticed that Polish TV resumed airing reruns of a 1980s French-made science cartoon series. I was wondering whether our members from France could recognise it by the appearance of the depicted character: Louis Antoine de Bougainville There was also another series about biology and about space science (the latter featured a flying character named Ordie or something close to that). Best regards from Poland, Karol P. -------------------- |
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As old as Voyager Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science Jan 8 2007, 07:15 PM
Ames Yes I do! Don't get me started...
Only ... Jan 8 2007, 09:09 PM
Sunspot I saw that report too, without a doubt the worst p... Jan 8 2007, 10:37 PM
Stu Absolutely appalling and - after yesterday's ... Jan 8 2007, 10:51 PM
Bob Shaw The thing that worries me is that there must be ma... Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM

tedstryk QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 8 2007, 11:10 PM) T... Jan 9 2007, 01:39 AM

ugordan QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 9 2007, 12:10 AM) T... Jan 9 2007, 10:07 AM

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ynyralmaen QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 8 2007, 11:51 PM) Unbeli... Jan 9 2007, 12:01 AM
Sunspot Quite a contrast the BBC online News report about ... Jan 8 2007, 11:49 PM
nprev Wow. I have to say that as an American I'm p... Jan 9 2007, 01:48 AM
climber QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 9 2007, 02:48 AM) Wow.... Jan 9 2007, 02:21 AM
Tesheiner QUOTE (climber @ Jan 9 2007, 03:21 AM) We... Jan 9 2007, 09:48 AM
TheChemist My latest Sunday newspaper included as a gift a Di... Jan 9 2007, 12:59 PM
ngunn Yes I saw that ridiculous dark matter report on BB... Jan 9 2007, 01:32 PM
Stu QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 9 2007, 01:32 PM) Yes ... Jan 9 2007, 03:50 PM

ngunn QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 9 2007, 03:50 PM) Yep. I... Jan 9 2007, 04:31 PM
ynyralmaen QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 9 2007, 02:32 PM) ... ... Jan 9 2007, 04:42 PM
Sunspot The weird thing is, they must have deliberately pl... Jan 9 2007, 05:33 PM
nprev ...wow. Thanks for the clip, ollopa; now I fully u... Jan 10 2007, 03:49 AM
mchan QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 9 2007, 07:49 PM) ...... Jan 11 2007, 07:04 AM
ElkGroveDan This one has always been one of my favorites: Jan 10 2007, 04:00 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jan 10 2007, 10:00 A... Jan 10 2007, 05:52 PM
ynyralmaen My favourite was in print, not on the telly...
Th... Jan 10 2007, 07:37 PM
nprev
You know, I'm still after all these years tr... Jan 11 2007, 04:05 AM
edstrick ".... just can't compete in the public... Jan 11 2007, 12:29 PM
Ames "Comet McNaught is passing close to the Sun, ... Jan 11 2007, 01:10 PM
MahFL I just read that also and was going to post it. An... Jan 11 2007, 03:05 PM
Jeff7 QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 11 2007, 08:10 AM) ... Jan 12 2007, 01:00 AM
mchan QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 11 2007, 05:10 AM) ... Jan 12 2007, 04:19 AM
djellison QUOTE (mchan @ Jan 12 2007, 04:19 AM) Tha... Jan 12 2007, 08:44 AM
nprev Mchan: Sadly, I think that most of these guys thin... Jan 12 2007, 04:42 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 12 2007, 04:42 AM) Mch... Jan 12 2007, 06:33 PM
edstrick "...A fav of mine is Pohl's The Space Mer... Jan 12 2007, 11:19 AM
Stu They replied to my complaint re the now infamous ... Jan 12 2007, 11:28 AM
djellison A total fob-off.
The problem isn't that they ... Jan 12 2007, 11:58 AM
MahFL Another one from Yahoo's slideshow....
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ngunn QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 12 2007, 12:12 PM) Ano... Jan 12 2007, 12:30 PM
edstrick This "Streaker" is clad only in long flo... Jan 12 2007, 01:41 PM
nprev ...yeah, I'm convinced that Franky lacked the ... Jan 12 2007, 07:27 PM
djellison QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 12 2007, 07:27 PM) Pre... Jan 19 2007, 12:35 PM
climber QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2007, 01:35 PM)... Jan 19 2007, 12:38 PM
nprev QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 19 2007, 04:35 AM)... Feb 9 2007, 02:25 PM
Steffen Newspapers even get the basics wrong, adding the w... Jan 19 2007, 12:29 PM
PhilCo126 Not Astronomy, but spaceflight this time ...
On 2... Jan 23 2007, 12:29 PM
Tesheiner A local newspaper published this monday an article... Jan 31 2007, 04:02 PM
djellison You would expect space daily to do better than put... Feb 9 2007, 01:19 PM
ngunn Yes you would, but...
Hands up anyone (other than... Feb 9 2007, 01:38 PM
dvandorn I have a slightly different issue to bring up, tho... Feb 14 2007, 11:58 PM
nprev Yeah...I've noticed that too.
I think they... Feb 15 2007, 12:14 AM
PhilCo126 Luckily there're some good programs around as ... Feb 15 2007, 08:13 PM
John Flushing QUOTE (As old as Voyager @ January 8th, 2007,... Mar 1 2007, 03:16 AM
ElkGroveDan This one's not TV but I though it deserved not... May 23 2007, 04:39 AM
Stu QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ May 23 2007, 05:39 A... May 23 2007, 05:28 AM
ElkGroveDan Here's a good one. I saved a pdf in the event... Oct 3 2007, 09:59 PM
nprev I was afraid of this. George Takei has cornered mo... Oct 3 2007, 10:20 PM
edstrick I keep hearing the news as the asteroid was RENAME... Oct 5 2007, 09:52 AM
Stu Don't know if any other UK viewers caught it, ... Jan 4 2008, 06:31 AM
tty QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 4 2008, 07:31 AM) Wow, h... Jan 4 2008, 07:03 AM
ngunn QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 4 2008, 06:31 AM) Don... Jan 4 2008, 01:42 PM
Mongo QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 4 2008, 01:42 PM) ... Jan 5 2008, 06:10 PM
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Stu QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 5 2008, 07:23 PM) BTW,... Apr 24 2008, 04:24 PM
laurele QUOTE (Stu @ Apr 24 2008, 12:24 PM) Resur... Apr 24 2008, 05:47 PM
hendric Will all the deep surveys going starting up, I... Jan 6 2008, 04:09 AM
nprev Oh, crap...dude, PLEASE no!!!! I... Jan 6 2008, 04:31 AM
Stu At first glance this is quite an amusing subject, ... Jan 6 2008, 08:38 AM
nprev ...thanks for the wake-up call, Stu. Did not reali... Jan 6 2008, 02:13 PM
lyford In my wild and impetuous youth I did this for my f... Jan 6 2008, 06:27 PM
Stu I try not to crush people when I tell them the tru... Jan 6 2008, 07:44 PM
lyford QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 6 2008, 11:44 AM) Still,... Jan 6 2008, 08:31 PM
nprev Hate to say it, but the continuing & widesprea... Jan 6 2008, 08:46 PM
lyford Good idea, nprev.
You know I just realized the di... Jan 6 2008, 09:50 PM
djellison I know of a case where a family 'named a star... Jan 6 2008, 10:00 PM
Stu QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 6 2008, 10:00 PM) ... Jan 6 2008, 11:32 PM
nprev To say nothing of the embarassment once they reali... Jan 7 2008, 12:27 AM
ollopa Another cool project for Google, methinks. Since ... Jan 7 2008, 01:12 AM
Stu QUOTE (ollopa @ Jan 7 2008, 01:12 AM) Ano... Jan 7 2008, 10:38 AM
akuo QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 7 2008, 10:38 AM) The br... Jan 7 2008, 11:51 AM
Stu QUOTE (akuo @ Jan 7 2008, 11:51 AM) Not s... Jan 7 2008, 12:30 PM
nprev QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 7 2008, 04:30 AM) Well, ... Jan 7 2008, 12:49 PM
gndonald Not really from the Television Media, but somethin... Jan 12 2008, 03:19 PM
dvandorn Reminds me of the only morbid chuckle I came acros... Jan 12 2008, 05:10 PM
nprev "C: It's not just a good idea, it's t... Jan 12 2008, 05:45 PM
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elakdawalla um, nprev, I hate to say it, but I think Dan was r... Mar 4 2008, 06:43 AM
nprev QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 3 2008, 10:43 PM... Mar 4 2008, 01:40 PM
As old as Voyager A little off topic, but an inaccuracy nonetheless.... Mar 4 2008, 09:39 AM
centsworth_II Porno at CERN
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nprev Hmmm...persuasive, Dan.
I may be being naive abo... Apr 25 2008, 02:52 AM![]() ![]() |
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