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What will happen to the Martian program if there's another lander failure? |
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Feb 6 2007, 08:27 PM
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Well, that's a tough question. What will happen, for example if Mars Phoenix fails to touch down successfully? Maybe I look a bit pessimistic, but I like to think in perspective. I think that:
1.If MSL managers give up the skycrane and decide to use Phoenix-like pinpoint landing system, it will effectively move the launch date from 2009 to 2011. Since there's no NASA orbiter planned for launch in 2009, maybe we won't have a new spacecraft then. 2. It will end the scout program or... the next scout mission will be a simple orbiter. 3. There will be several small landers in future, using the good old airbag bouncing method. |
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Feb 6 2007, 09:30 PM
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Also, from what I've read, the airbag concept just doesn't scale up any further than a MER-sized payload. In fact, they were right on the edge of what an airbag system can do with the MERs.
They (our own Mars Engineer, among others -- hi, Rob!) tested the same airbags as used on MPF with MER masses, and the airbags literally came apart at the seams. Several precious kilos of mass went into beefing up the MER airbags to ensure they would work, and the conclusion of all concerned seems to be that you can't land anything much more massive on Mars than a MER using the airbag system. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Zvezdichko What will happen to the Martian program if there's another lander failure? Feb 6 2007, 08:27 PM
djellison The next Mars Scout is going to be an orbtier anyw... Feb 6 2007, 08:46 PM
Zvezdichko QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 6 2007, 08:46 PM) ... Feb 6 2007, 08:56 PM
djellison MSL is a retrorocket landing.
Doug Feb 6 2007, 08:58 PM
Zvezdichko QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 6 2007, 08:58 PM) ... Feb 6 2007, 09:05 PM
djellison QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Feb 6 2007, 09:05 PM)... Feb 6 2007, 09:18 PM
MarkL Pathfinder and then two MER landings demonstrated ... Feb 6 2007, 09:01 PM
tuvas QUOTE (MarkL @ Feb 6 2007, 02:01 PM) With... Feb 6 2007, 09:16 PM

tedstryk QUOTE (tuvas @ Feb 6 2007, 09:16 PM) I... Feb 7 2007, 12:56 AM
Pavel QUOTE (MarkL @ Feb 6 2007, 04:01 PM) If s... Feb 7 2007, 12:09 AM
Zvezdichko Isn't right that the MPL landing profile was c... Feb 6 2007, 09:20 PM
djellison Technically the MPL landing design was chosen in t... Feb 6 2007, 09:22 PM
Zvezdichko Hm, that was interesting for me to know
It seems... Feb 6 2007, 09:27 PM
Zvezdichko This reminds me of the film The Red Planet. I supp... Feb 6 2007, 09:34 PM
tuvas QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Feb 6 2007, 02:34 PM)... Feb 8 2007, 03:16 PM
djellison Furthermore - can you imagine having to use a larg... Feb 7 2007, 07:26 AM
Zvezdichko QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 7 2007, 07:26 AM) ... Feb 7 2007, 04:17 PM
MarkL The question will really only be answered after th... Feb 7 2007, 02:39 PM
djellison If you're evolving power, instruments, movilit... Feb 7 2007, 03:02 PM
djellison Beagle 2 was designed to detach from the airbags e... Feb 7 2007, 04:20 PM
Zvezdichko I'd like to raise another question. Smart Land... Feb 7 2007, 04:33 PM
djellison No - MER had no means to avoid hazards. The dece... Feb 7 2007, 04:49 PM
MarkL Obstacle avoidance is difficult since the lander h... Feb 7 2007, 06:01 PM
nprev Really good idea, Mark, but you're right...pro... Feb 8 2007, 01:53 AM
dvandorn Actually, using airbags is good for any experiment... Feb 8 2007, 07:32 AM
djellison The good stuff Phoenix is after is 10's of CM... Feb 8 2007, 08:15 AM
Zvezdichko My idea about the airbag landing was much differen... Feb 8 2007, 04:16 PM
djellison QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Feb 8 2007, 04:16 PM)... Feb 8 2007, 04:33 PM![]() ![]() |
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