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What will happen to the Martian program if there's another lander failure?
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post Feb 6 2007, 08:27 PM
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Well, that's a tough question. What will happen, for example if Mars Phoenix fails to touch down successfully? Maybe I look a bit pessimistic, but I like to think in perspective. I think that:

1.If MSL managers give up the skycrane and decide to use Phoenix-like pinpoint landing system, it will effectively move the launch date from 2009 to 2011. Since there's no NASA orbiter planned for launch in 2009, maybe we won't have a new spacecraft then.

2. It will end the scout program or... the next scout mission will be a simple orbiter.

3. There will be several small landers in future, using the good old airbag bouncing method.
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post Feb 7 2007, 04:20 PM
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Beagle 2 was designed to detach from the airbags entirely and then drop to the ground. I was refering to the concept of landing Phoenix with MER/MPF style airbags and then trying to use its arm to reach over them.

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- Zvezdichko   What will happen to the Martian program if there's another lander failure?   Feb 6 2007, 08:27 PM
- - djellison   The next Mars Scout is going to be an orbtier anyw...   Feb 6 2007, 08:46 PM
|- - Zvezdichko   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 6 2007, 08:46 PM) ...   Feb 6 2007, 08:56 PM
- - djellison   MSL is a retrorocket landing. Doug   Feb 6 2007, 08:58 PM
|- - Zvezdichko   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 6 2007, 08:58 PM) ...   Feb 6 2007, 09:05 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Feb 6 2007, 09:05 PM)...   Feb 6 2007, 09:18 PM
- - MarkL   Pathfinder and then two MER landings demonstrated ...   Feb 6 2007, 09:01 PM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (MarkL @ Feb 6 2007, 02:01 PM) With...   Feb 6 2007, 09:16 PM
||- - tedstryk   QUOTE (tuvas @ Feb 6 2007, 09:16 PM) I...   Feb 7 2007, 12:56 AM
|- - Pavel   QUOTE (MarkL @ Feb 6 2007, 04:01 PM) If s...   Feb 7 2007, 12:09 AM
- - Zvezdichko   Isn't right that the MPL landing profile was c...   Feb 6 2007, 09:20 PM
- - djellison   Technically the MPL landing design was chosen in t...   Feb 6 2007, 09:22 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Hm, that was interesting for me to know It seems...   Feb 6 2007, 09:27 PM
- - dvandorn   Also, from what I've read, the airbag concept ...   Feb 6 2007, 09:30 PM
- - Zvezdichko   This reminds me of the film The Red Planet. I supp...   Feb 6 2007, 09:34 PM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Feb 6 2007, 02:34 PM)...   Feb 8 2007, 03:16 PM
- - djellison   Furthermore - can you imagine having to use a larg...   Feb 7 2007, 07:26 AM
|- - Zvezdichko   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 7 2007, 07:26 AM) ...   Feb 7 2007, 04:17 PM
- - MarkL   The question will really only be answered after th...   Feb 7 2007, 02:39 PM
- - djellison   If you're evolving power, instruments, movilit...   Feb 7 2007, 03:02 PM
- - djellison   Beagle 2 was designed to detach from the airbags e...   Feb 7 2007, 04:20 PM
- - Zvezdichko   I'd like to raise another question. Smart Land...   Feb 7 2007, 04:33 PM
- - djellison   No - MER had no means to avoid hazards. The dece...   Feb 7 2007, 04:49 PM
- - MarkL   Obstacle avoidance is difficult since the lander h...   Feb 7 2007, 06:01 PM
- - nprev   Really good idea, Mark, but you're right...pro...   Feb 8 2007, 01:53 AM
- - dvandorn   Actually, using airbags is good for any experiment...   Feb 8 2007, 07:32 AM
- - djellison   The good stuff Phoenix is after is 10's of CM...   Feb 8 2007, 08:15 AM
- - Zvezdichko   My idea about the airbag landing was much differen...   Feb 8 2007, 04:16 PM
- - djellison   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Feb 8 2007, 04:16 PM)...   Feb 8 2007, 04:33 PM


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