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The "Lump of Good Hope", Significant..? |
 Feb 22 2007, 08:49 PM
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Interesting blocky feature visible in the latest navcams (centred in this crop):
I've identified it orbitally - it's the block marked with the black arrow in this crop:
It appears to be at the exposed end of - dare I say it - a linear feature marked with white arrows in that crop. |
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Mar 1 2007, 06:37 AM
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Absolutely beautiful, Ant103. I wish I could speak French to tell you how much I enjoyed your sol 1100 panorama. When I did my version it hurt me to destroy the mood by stretching the daylight out of those lovely, shadowed cliffs. But we so rarely get raws that can be contrast stretched as far as these could. The devil in me wanted to see the details in the rocks.
 QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 27 2007, 01:46 PM)  ... In other words, the conditions in the local ejecta surge around a cratering event could account for the LOGH to be either cemented ejecta (i.e., a breccia of some sort) or an intact block of rockbed. So, in this case, theories aren't enough -- we need (hint, hint) to go take a close look at it (hint, hint) to determine the truth either way (hint, hint). ... Doug: I thought your post was an excellent summary of many of the complexities that need to be considered. This thing still has me wondering. In the first navcam set it looks like a breccia, but in the next set it looks like a block of ejected bedrock. I think a "closer look" needs only to be the pancams already captured but not yet revealed. I worry that they might leave me eating crow.Those pancams will eventually come down the pipe. Until then, here is a HiRise anaglyph of the vicinity that I was looking at tonight, in case it might be useful to someone. I'm still having fun with the raws, but enough already.
-------------------- ...Tom
I'm not a Space Fan, I'm a Space Exploration Enthusiast. |
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Mar 1 2007, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Mar 1 2007, 06:37 AM) Until then, here is a HiRise anaglyph of the vicinity that I was looking at tonight, in case it might be useful to someone. Tom, I'm curious where you obtained that, or did you make it yourself? It would be wonderful to have a full crater stereo view of that quality.Tesheiner: thanks for confirming that Duck Bay location! I look forward to seeing our entry point from across Victoria. Should be soon now. |
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Mar 1 2007, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 1 2007, 05:13 PM) Tom, I'm curious where you obtained that, or did you make it yourself? It would be wonderful to have a full crater stereo view of that quality. http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/PSP/victoria.html |
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fredk The "Lump of Good Hope" Feb 22 2007, 08:49 PM
Gray Good observation noting the apparent linear featur... Feb 22 2007, 09:20 PM dvandorn It's a little tough to say whether the feature... Feb 22 2007, 09:26 PM dvandorn Looking at the features along this portion of the ... Feb 22 2007, 09:35 PM
ngunn QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 22 2007, 09:35 PM) ... Feb 23 2007, 04:02 PM Tesheiner While waiting for today's batch of images from... Feb 23 2007, 11:01 AM fredk QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Feb 23 2007, 11:01 AM)... Feb 23 2007, 04:26 PM Tesheiner QUOTE (fredk @ Feb 23 2007, 05:26 PM) I... Feb 23 2007, 05:12 PM Tesheiner Sol 1096 images are downlinked and available.
Here... Feb 23 2007, 12:04 PM WindyT QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Feb 23 2007, 12:04 PM)... Feb 23 2007, 02:53 PM fredk QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Feb 23 2007, 12:04 PM)... Feb 23 2007, 07:33 PM Stu Quick close-up...
Feb 23 2007, 02:17 PM Edward Schmitz Is anyone else curious about that lump on the next... Feb 23 2007, 04:34 PM MarkL Its a very interesting lump indeed. Perhaps a sin... Feb 23 2007, 04:58 PM MarkL You can see the Lump of Good Hope in the attached ... Feb 23 2007, 05:46 PM WindyT QUOTE (MarkL @ Feb 23 2007, 05:46 PM) [..... Feb 23 2007, 07:16 PM kenny [quote name='WindyT' date='Feb 23 2007... Feb 25 2007, 09:11 AM fredk When I first posted on the blocky feature (I love ... Feb 23 2007, 07:20 PM Stu The "Lump of Good Hope"?!?!?... Feb 23 2007, 07:34 PM Stu Seems like a lot of interest in this newly-spotted... Feb 23 2007, 08:24 PM ngunn Seems like a good idea to me but perhaps one of th... Feb 23 2007, 09:01 PM Tesheiner Good idea to start a new thread on this.
Have a lo... Feb 23 2007, 09:48 PM fredk What look like cracks could be narrow "spills... Feb 24 2007, 02:55 AM Bobby Mars Rover transform in this image to Transformer ... Feb 24 2007, 03:07 AM CosmicRocker The lump appears to be either the largest ejecta b... Feb 24 2007, 03:43 AM fredk Long baseline navcam views of the Lump, sols 1095 ... Feb 24 2007, 05:23 PM Gray After looking at the anaglyph I'm not sure if ... Feb 24 2007, 06:12 PM nprev Me neither. It almost looks like a spit pointed di... Feb 24 2007, 06:17 PM CosmicRocker Hehe...one lump or two, or three? This thing has ... Feb 25 2007, 07:26 AM Tesheiner There were two imaging sequences taken on sol 1097... Feb 25 2007, 02:33 PM Edward Schmitz after seeing fredk lbl (thanks for that), it seems... Feb 26 2007, 04:49 AM Edward Schmitz Another possible lump? I'm beginning to think... Feb 27 2007, 05:01 PM Tesheiner QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ Feb 27 2007, 06:0... Feb 27 2007, 05:37 PM antoniseb I've been assuming that everything above the l... Feb 27 2007, 06:40 PM dvandorn QUOTE (antoniseb @ Feb 27 2007, 12:40 PM)... Feb 27 2007, 07:46 PM antoniseb QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 27 2007, 02:46 PM) ... Feb 27 2007, 08:10 PM Gray antoniseb,
Your question is very appropriate. The... Feb 27 2007, 07:06 PM fredk Here's the sol 1100 pancam view of the top of ... Feb 27 2007, 08:35 PM Tesheiner QUOTE (fredk @ Feb 27 2007, 09:35 PM) Apa... Mar 1 2007, 01:45 PM Gray That is *quite* a dramatic view - worthy of a post... Feb 28 2007, 03:55 PM Ant103 The view from Good Hope.
And the traditional des... Feb 28 2007, 04:06 PM antoniseb I'm a little surprised that there are no image... Feb 28 2007, 06:00 PM Gray I was to see some images of the ?faulted? area too... Feb 28 2007, 06:35 PM fredk The sol 1100 navcams show the area of the "li... Feb 28 2007, 06:59 PM Gray fredk
Thanks for pointing it out. I was looking f... Mar 1 2007, 02:27 PM Tesheiner QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 1 2007, 06:13 PM) Shou... Mar 1 2007, 05:31 PM CosmicRocker QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 1 2007, 11:13 AM) Tom,... Mar 2 2007, 06:36 AM fredk I agree that purple is hard to swallow - and their... Mar 2 2007, 04:20 PM CosmicRocker Ok, fredk. I have a plan. I converted my adjuste... Mar 3 2007, 06:16 AM CosmicRocker That was a wasted effort. Google Pages freaked ou... Mar 3 2007, 05:52 PM fredk Tom, thanks a million! That's exactly wha... Mar 3 2007, 07:26 PM algorimancer Those were great! HiRise needs to make lots m... Mar 3 2007, 07:49 PM Pando Coooool CosmicRocker! Now, the only thing left... Mar 4 2007, 12:47 AM Pando Here's a little 3d flicker gif with Duck Bay a... Mar 4 2007, 02:41 AM CosmicRocker I think such software exists. I spent time search... Mar 4 2007, 02:50 AM ngunn Thanks for that anaglyph - superb! Mar 4 2007, 03:51 PM Sunspot Weren't there supposed to be some pancams of t... Mar 4 2007, 04:12 PM CosmicRocker Yes, but they apparently have not come down yet. ... Mar 4 2007, 04:23 PM Sunspot Maybe they've deleted them from the rover. Mar 4 2007, 04:37 PM Tesheiner No.
It's just a question of priorities; they a... Mar 4 2007, 06:11 PM CosmicRocker I will not claim to understand the complexities of... Mar 5 2007, 06:24 AM djellison Remember - sometimes there might be two good UHF p... Mar 5 2007, 06:53 AM fredk We finally have a (partial!) pancam view of th... Mar 5 2007, 08:24 PM Tesheiner One whole week waiting to see that pancam at full-... Mar 5 2007, 08:46 PM brellis Perhaps they had to airbrush the little martians o... Mar 5 2007, 09:11 PM fredk Not to worry Tesheiner, I'm sure the Wise Ones... Mar 5 2007, 09:17 PM Edward Schmitz How about an impact origin for the lump... We hav... Mar 5 2007, 09:41 PM CosmicRocker Egad...Talk about building the suspense! We h... Mar 6 2007, 05:17 AM Tesheiner At last!
Here are the pancams: http://nasa.exp... Mar 7 2007, 08:56 AM Stu Luvverly lump of rock...
Mar 7 2007, 10:21 AM Ant103 And the color panorama (quickly stitched) : Mar 7 2007, 01:01 PM alan Judging from the color differencee, which is reall... Mar 7 2007, 01:20 PM ngunn Could it be from here, but lower down? Mar 7 2007, 01:23 PM dvandorn Looks to me like the Lump is the same kind of rock... Mar 7 2007, 01:26 PM Tesheiner I think this rock on the picture below is another ... Mar 7 2007, 04:23 PM ustrax Tesheiner...and those rocks in the background? Whe... Mar 7 2007, 04:30 PM Tesheiner Sharp eyes, Ustrax!
Perhaps those are meteorit... Mar 7 2007, 04:36 PM ustrax QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Mar 7 2007, 04:36 PM) ... Mar 7 2007, 04:54 PM fredk Tesheiner: I've been eyeing that "2nd lum... Mar 7 2007, 04:48 PM Tesheiner Well, the big rock is at C5-D1 some 115m from the ... Mar 7 2007, 05:03 PM fredk Those "rocks", Ustrax, are a small, fres... Mar 7 2007, 05:15 PM ustrax That's it...
Thanks fredk! Mar 7 2007, 05:25 PM fredk To emphasize how distinct the colour of the Lump o... Mar 7 2007, 06:32 PM JTN QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 7 2007, 06:32 PM) I wo... Mar 7 2007, 10:56 PM Tesheiner QUOTE (JTN @ Mar 7 2007, 11:56 PM) Appare... Mar 8 2007, 09:38 AM Edward Schmitz well, it certainly is an interesting rock. I seem... Mar 7 2007, 06:53 PM dvandorn Fred, what I was seeing that looked very similar t... Mar 8 2007, 02:23 AM stevesliva QUOTE (dvandorn @ Mar 7 2007, 09:23 PM) t... Mar 8 2007, 03:35 AM CosmicRocker I thought these pancams would have solved the myst... Mar 8 2007, 06:22 AM general Big Brother is watching you, Tesheiner. Mar 8 2007, 10:01 AM Ant103 Hum...
I see that the "Lump Rocks" make ... Mar 8 2007, 11:20 AM MarsIsImportant Does 'Madrid' or the lump equal a remanent... Mar 8 2007, 12:39 PM dvandorn Hmmm... appears to me that the Lump *is* fine-laye... Mar 8 2007, 03:29 PM MarsIsImportant QUOTE (dvandorn @ Mar 8 2007, 09:29 AM) H... Mar 8 2007, 03:55 PM fredk Dvandorn,
To risk getting into a "yes they d... Mar 8 2007, 03:51 PM MarkL The present campaign seems focused on finishing th... Mar 8 2007, 03:58 PM MarsIsImportant QUOTE (MarkL @ Mar 8 2007, 09:58 AM) The ... Mar 8 2007, 04:15 PM |
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