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Mar 14 2007, 12:27 AM
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The Cassini website as well as the mass media is announcing a 'new' hypothesis on internal heating. The article also states that complex (presumably) organic molecules observed in the plumes imply an active heat source. Anybody have more details?
I still can't figure out exactly how Enceladus might have been particularly enriched in Al-26 with respect to the other icy moons, other than its proximity to Saturn during its formation... -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Apr 22 2007, 07:58 AM
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"....The one thing that really surprised me is the estimate of the total mass loss over the age of the Saturn system. A fifth of an Enceladus mass! One would think that this should have noticeably distorted the shape of the moon...."
Point one: That's a pure assumption that the current rate of mass loss can be extrapolated back at a constant mass loss rate. There is a clear problem that the tidal heating calculated for the resonances Enceladus is in and could be in just doesn't add up to the current activity and heat flux. Point 2... Enceladus is like silly-putty inside... Look at those fissure-fractured craters where the crater walls deflect the crack pattern and the crater floor is domed up with more fissures. There's a brittle shell of cold ice, and a soft layer underneath, the depth to the soft layer depending on the local heat flow. In some areas, convecting ice makes the furrowed looping texture where it's laterally deformed the crust, in others, most unusually compared with Ganymede and Europa, etc, the crust over the soft ice has just evened out isostatically, fracturing as it went. |
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nprev Enceladus' "Hot Start" Mar 14 2007, 12:27 AM
volcanopele Actually, the idea that Enceladus maybe have enric... Mar 14 2007, 05:50 AM
nprev Ah...thanks, VP, figured that the "jump start... Mar 14 2007, 03:56 PM
stevesliva I'll piggyback on this Enceladus origin thread... Apr 19 2007, 07:19 PM
alan CHARM -- Enceladus: Cassini Finds Another Active W... Apr 20 2007, 06:10 PM
belleraphon1 QUOTE (alan @ Apr 20 2007, 02:10 PM) CHAR... May 3 2007, 11:57 AM
elakdawalla That presentation is a really valuable chronologic... Apr 20 2007, 06:28 PM
volcanopele It's sad. I'm only an undergrad and I... Apr 20 2007, 07:12 PM
elakdawalla It's Bonnie and Dennis, right?
--Emily Apr 20 2007, 07:47 PM
john_s QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Apr 20 2007, 07:47 P... Apr 20 2007, 10:52 PM
volcanopele Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the case.
An... Apr 20 2007, 07:49 PM
Juramike 21 km flyby?
I didn't know Cassini was also... Apr 20 2007, 08:29 PM
ugordan Them navigation guys better not do any of them met... Apr 20 2007, 10:17 PM
volcanopele Using Adobe Acrobat Reader 8 on a Windows machine,... Apr 20 2007, 11:06 PM
john_s QUOTE (volcanopele @ Apr 20 2007, 11:06 P... Apr 21 2007, 03:34 PM
lyford QUOTE (john_s @ Apr 21 2007, 08:34 AM) Si... Apr 21 2007, 06:18 PM
Tom Tamlyn QUOTE (john_s @ Apr 21 2007, 11:34 AM) Si... Apr 25 2007, 08:14 PM
stevesliva Looked fine to me as well. Nice presentation! Apr 20 2007, 11:39 PM
nprev Looked great to me using XP & Acrobat 7 as wel... Apr 20 2007, 11:47 PM
mchan Enjoyed reading the presentation, john_s. Good su... Apr 21 2007, 04:47 AM
nprev Not at all...thanks for so generously sharing it w... Apr 21 2007, 04:30 PM
Rob Pinnegar That's a really nice presentation. It should g... Apr 21 2007, 07:21 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Apr 21 2007, 03:21 ... Apr 22 2007, 04:56 AM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 22 2007, 01:58 AM) ... Apr 25 2007, 01:28 AM
MarcF From the CHARM presentation :
"Next hi-res, ... Apr 24 2007, 07:08 PM
martin peters Many thanks to john_s for providing the CHARM pres... Apr 25 2007, 01:22 AM
remcook here you go
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia... Apr 25 2007, 12:51 PM
ugordan Wow, look how one of the plumes is readily apparen... Apr 25 2007, 02:00 PM
Exploitcorporations Indeed very reminiscent of recent views of Io...a ... Apr 25 2007, 03:35 PM
climber They're talking of 30 kms fly by now :
http://... Aug 1 2007, 08:09 PM
volcanopele While the flyby will bring Cassini to within 30 km... Aug 1 2007, 08:50 PM
belleraphon1 All....
While I can understand the temptation to ... Aug 1 2007, 09:32 PM
ugordan I'm more uneasy about the navigation uncertain... Aug 1 2007, 09:52 PM
belleraphon1 Thanks ugordan.....
really, no one can predict t... Aug 1 2007, 10:09 PM
belleraphon1 All...
the sublimation model has been refined.
... Aug 15 2007, 03:10 AM
brellis Does anybody know where to find a transcript of ye... Aug 17 2007, 10:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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