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Mar 17 2007, 09:58 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6461201.stm
Scientists studying pictures from Nasa's Odyssey spacecraft have spotted what they think may be seven caves on the surface of Mars. well I guess that makes habitats a much easier task of creating now, plus with whatever we find in the walls of Valles Marineris. |
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Mar 19 2007, 04:05 PM
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That'll teach me to comment without digging first
Some nice Lat-Long info from these... Dena http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V18053001 Center Latitude-6.084 N Center Longitude239.061 E Chloe http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V13448001 Center Latitude-4.926 N Center Longitude239.193 E Wendy http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V17716001 Center Latitude-8.099 N Center Longitude240.242 E Annie http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V18340001 Center Latitude-6.267 N Center Longitude240.005 E Abbey & Nikki http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V14334002 Center Latitude-8.498 N Center Longitude240.349 E Jeanne http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V18315002 Center Latitude-5.636 N Center Longitude241.259 E I can't find any MOC's to match so far - and I'm sure if there were some, they'd be in the abstract. I'm just guessing here - on the possible structure w.r.t. the collapsed lava tubes - and this is possibly the worst 3d visualisation of all time - BUT - perhaps it's something a bit like that ( just not crap ) Doug
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Mar 19 2007, 06:40 PM
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I'm just guessing here - on the possible structure w.r.t. the collapsed lava tubes - and this is possibly the worst 3d visualisation of all time - BUT - perhaps it's something a bit like that ( just not crap ) No Doug, that is not the way holes in lava tubes work. They are actual holes in the roof of the tube, and they do indeed often look rather like the ones in the pictures. Have a look at this for example: http://www.hawaiiweb.com/kauai/html/sites/...e_wet_cave.html I happen to know a bit about the subject, being interested in paleontology. Normally lava caves are rather dismal places paleontologically since the acid and often wet environment is very bad for bone preservation. However these holes in the roof are very effective pitfall traps and the talus cone that accumulates below the hole can be very good for fossils. |
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Mar 19 2007, 06:41 PM
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Marslauncher USTRAX! Here is your Abyss. Mar 17 2007, 09:58 AM
Rakhir It may be a nice target for HiRISE ! Mar 17 2007, 10:22 AM
Toma B Wow!
Nice place to send Robot-Speleologist..... Mar 17 2007, 10:42 AM
tasp B)-->QUOTE(Toma B @ Mar 17 2007, 05:42 AM... Mar 17 2007, 03:40 PM
JTN Here's the abstract. The Nature article sugges... Mar 17 2007, 11:12 AM
MarsIsImportant I'm not too surprised at all about this find. ... Mar 17 2007, 03:10 PM
nprev Even more exciting, what about ancient sulfate sta... Mar 17 2007, 03:51 PM
tasp Would we recognize a kimberlite pipe in any of the... Mar 17 2007, 03:53 PM
MarsIsImportant It sounds like, if these extensive cave networks d... Mar 17 2007, 04:37 PM
tty Considering the surrounding terrain and location t... Mar 17 2007, 05:28 PM
nprev We need to know more about these for many reasons,... Mar 17 2007, 05:57 PM
dvandorn My only concern for the suitability of these caves... Mar 18 2007, 12:54 AM
SFJCody http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005LPI....36.1051B
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pch Yes, you can found stalactites in basalt cave... Mar 18 2007, 09:58 AM
edstrick Lave-tube igneous speleothems will be about the sa... Mar 18 2007, 10:05 AM
tasp An examination of broken stalagmites and stalactit... Mar 18 2007, 01:46 PM
nprev Agreed...would love to see cross-sections of same... Mar 18 2007, 03:52 PM
edstrick http://www.stoneaerospace.com is getting ready to... Mar 19 2007, 09:19 AM
ustrax QUOTE (Marslauncher @ Mar 17 2007, 09:58 ... Mar 19 2007, 10:22 AM
helvick Bill Stone is definitely a man to keep an eye on. ... Mar 19 2007, 10:36 AM
ustrax Here they are...
http://i16.photobucket.com/album... Mar 19 2007, 11:49 AM
ustrax QUOTE (ustrax @ Mar 19 2007, 11:49 AM) ht... Mar 19 2007, 03:20 PM
djellison If you've taken the cave 'targets' fro... Mar 19 2007, 03:45 PM
elakdawalla No, those pictures are indeed VIS. Here's the... Mar 19 2007, 03:54 PM
babakm Doug,
I'm not sure you have the names matched... Mar 19 2007, 05:01 PM
djellison I just listed the names in the order they were, an... Mar 19 2007, 05:07 PM
ustrax So...this must be Clöhe and Jeanne, right?
About J... Mar 19 2007, 05:20 PM
babakm H1904 is a pretty dark image anyway.
BTW, Dena is... Mar 19 2007, 05:17 PM
djellison Pulled out what I can find from the HRSC images...... Mar 19 2007, 08:05 PM
hendric I guess this is a pretty stupid question, but why ... Mar 19 2007, 09:28 PM
ngunn QUOTE (hendric @ Mar 19 2007, 09:28 PM) I... Mar 20 2007, 02:50 PM
tty Perhaps impactors punched holes in the roof? Even ... Mar 19 2007, 10:03 PM
babakm They look transposed vs the original images, but o... Mar 19 2007, 10:18 PM
jaredGalen Is there any radar coverage of any of these areas ... May 24 2007, 01:01 AM
PhilCo126 APD :
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap070528.html Jun 6 2007, 08:51 PM![]() ![]() |
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