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Marslauncher
post Mar 17 2007, 09:58 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6461201.stm

Scientists studying pictures from Nasa's Odyssey spacecraft have spotted what they think may be seven caves on the surface of Mars.


well I guess that makes habitats a much easier task of creating now, plus with whatever we find in the walls of Valles Marineris.
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post Mar 19 2007, 04:05 PM
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That'll teach me to comment without digging first smile.gif
Some nice Lat-Long info from these...

Dena
http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V18053001
Center Latitude-6.084 N Center Longitude239.061 E

Chloe
http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V13448001
Center Latitude-4.926 N Center Longitude239.193 E

Wendy
http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V17716001
Center Latitude-8.099 N Center Longitude240.242 E

Annie
http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V18340001
Center Latitude-6.267 N Center Longitude240.005 E

Abbey & Nikki
http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V14334002
Center Latitude-8.498 N Center Longitude240.349 E

Jeanne
http://themis-data.asu.edu/img/V18315002
Center Latitude-5.636 N Center Longitude241.259 E

I can't find any MOC's to match so far - and I'm sure if there were some, they'd be in the abstract.

I'm just guessing here - on the possible structure w.r.t. the collapsed lava tubes - and this is possibly the worst 3d visualisation of all time - BUT - perhaps it's something a bit like that ( just not crap )

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post Mar 19 2007, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 19 2007, 05:05 PM) *
I'm just guessing here - on the possible structure w.r.t. the collapsed lava tubes - and this is possibly the worst 3d visualisation of all time - BUT - perhaps it's something a bit like that ( just not crap )


No Doug, that is not the way holes in lava tubes work. They are actual holes in the roof of the tube, and they do indeed often look rather like the ones in the pictures. Have a look at this for example:

http://www.hawaiiweb.com/kauai/html/sites/...e_wet_cave.html

I happen to know a bit about the subject, being interested in paleontology. Normally lava caves are rather dismal places paleontologically since the acid and often wet environment is very bad for bone preservation. However these holes in the roof are very effective pitfall traps and the talus cone that accumulates below the hole can be very good for fossils.
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- Marslauncher   USTRAX! Here is your Abyss.   Mar 17 2007, 09:58 AM
- - Rakhir   It may be a nice target for HiRISE !   Mar 17 2007, 10:22 AM
- - Toma B   Wow! Nice place to send Robot-Speleologist.....   Mar 17 2007, 10:42 AM
|- - tasp   B)-->QUOTE(Toma B @ Mar 17 2007, 05:42 AM...   Mar 17 2007, 03:40 PM
- - JTN   Here's the abstract. The Nature article sugges...   Mar 17 2007, 11:12 AM
- - MarsIsImportant   I'm not too surprised at all about this find. ...   Mar 17 2007, 03:10 PM
- - nprev   Even more exciting, what about ancient sulfate sta...   Mar 17 2007, 03:51 PM
- - tasp   Would we recognize a kimberlite pipe in any of the...   Mar 17 2007, 03:53 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   It sounds like, if these extensive cave networks d...   Mar 17 2007, 04:37 PM
- - tty   Considering the surrounding terrain and location t...   Mar 17 2007, 05:28 PM
- - nprev   We need to know more about these for many reasons,...   Mar 17 2007, 05:57 PM
- - dvandorn   My only concern for the suitability of these caves...   Mar 18 2007, 12:54 AM
- - SFJCody   http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005LPI....36.1051B ...   Mar 18 2007, 08:02 AM
- - pch   Yes, you can found stalactites in basalt cave...   Mar 18 2007, 09:58 AM
- - edstrick   Lave-tube igneous speleothems will be about the sa...   Mar 18 2007, 10:05 AM
- - tasp   An examination of broken stalagmites and stalactit...   Mar 18 2007, 01:46 PM
- - nprev   Agreed...would love to see cross-sections of same...   Mar 18 2007, 03:52 PM
- - edstrick   http://www.stoneaerospace.com is getting ready to...   Mar 19 2007, 09:19 AM
- - ustrax   QUOTE (Marslauncher @ Mar 17 2007, 09:58 ...   Mar 19 2007, 10:22 AM
- - helvick   Bill Stone is definitely a man to keep an eye on. ...   Mar 19 2007, 10:36 AM
|- - ustrax   Here they are... http://i16.photobucket.com/album...   Mar 19 2007, 11:49 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (ustrax @ Mar 19 2007, 11:49 AM) ht...   Mar 19 2007, 03:20 PM
- - djellison   If you've taken the cave 'targets' fro...   Mar 19 2007, 03:45 PM
- - elakdawalla   No, those pictures are indeed VIS. Here's the...   Mar 19 2007, 03:54 PM
- - djellison   That'll teach me to comment without digging fi...   Mar 19 2007, 04:05 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 19 2007, 05:05 PM)...   Mar 19 2007, 06:40 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (tty @ Mar 19 2007, 06:40 PM) They ...   Mar 19 2007, 06:41 PM
- - babakm   Doug, I'm not sure you have the names matched...   Mar 19 2007, 05:01 PM
- - djellison   I just listed the names in the order they were, an...   Mar 19 2007, 05:07 PM
|- - ustrax   So...this must be Clöhe and Jeanne, right? About J...   Mar 19 2007, 05:20 PM
- - babakm   H1904 is a pretty dark image anyway. BTW, Dena is...   Mar 19 2007, 05:17 PM
- - djellison   Pulled out what I can find from the HRSC images......   Mar 19 2007, 08:05 PM
- - hendric   I guess this is a pretty stupid question, but why ...   Mar 19 2007, 09:28 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (hendric @ Mar 19 2007, 09:28 PM) I...   Mar 20 2007, 02:50 PM
- - tty   Perhaps impactors punched holes in the roof? Even ...   Mar 19 2007, 10:03 PM
- - babakm   They look transposed vs the original images, but o...   Mar 19 2007, 10:18 PM
- - jaredGalen   Is there any radar coverage of any of these areas ...   May 24 2007, 01:01 AM
- - PhilCo126   APD : http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap070528.html   Jun 6 2007, 08:51 PM


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