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post Apr 5 2007, 11:27 PM
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As there are some pictures being released from HiRISE of proposed MSL landing sites, I thought I'd give you what little I know about the process. As of the HiRISE team meeting a month ago or so, there were about 40 proposed sites to land MSL. These sites were prioritized, and are being photographed roughly in priority order. Each site requires a picture from each of the 3 main cameras (CTX, CRISM, and HiRISE) in their highest resolution in order to proceed. If it's determined that there can be a safe landing site, as well as interesting science targets, then they will advance to the next level, where I presume they will "wallpaper" the areas with HiRISE and CRISM (CTX, well, they get the whole landing ellipse in one shot, I think...). They likely will also photograph science areas near the proposed sites to look for interesting targets. After that, well, your guess is as good as mine. Note that none of this is official, but it's what I would expect. Also note that the landing site selection is still opened to new suggestions, the ones they have so far are not a complete list. The priority also doesn't mean anything right now other than they are the targets which will be photographed first, these priorities are still subject to change. But, well, I thought I'd send this out there for you all sink your teeth on, it really is quite interesting!
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post Sep 18 2008, 11:30 AM
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MSL landing site should be scientifically valuable, but should be spectacular also. Eberswalde is not very spectacular, Holden and Gale are spectacular. In case of similar scientific value, important PR aspect should be taken into consideration. Potential disappointment of simple US taxpayer can decrease support for next Mars missions.


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post Sep 19 2008, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (peter59 @ Sep 18 2008, 01:30 PM) *
MSL landing site should be scientifically valuable, but should be spectacular also. Eberswalde is not very spectacular, Holden and Gale are spectacular.

In terms of spectacular views may Eberswalde pale, but in terms of to be the most spectacular delta on Mars that probably grew in long-standing water does Eberswalde glint. To enthuse they have only to show similar delta pictures from Earth along with the explanation that large deltas are great places for life... ok probably better not, but that there is a high potential for preserved organic matter. And that crater is older than Holden.


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- tuvas   MSL landing sites   Apr 5 2007, 11:27 PM
- - monitorlizard   Great to get the inside scoop on the MSL landing s...   Apr 6 2007, 12:33 AM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Apr 5 2007, 05:33 ...   Apr 6 2007, 05:07 PM
- - nprev   Tuvas, are you allowed to post the locations of an...   Apr 6 2007, 04:02 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Apr 5 2007, 09:02 PM) Tuva...   Apr 6 2007, 04:08 AM
- - Pavel   I remember one of the requirement was that the lan...   Apr 6 2007, 04:08 AM
- - djellison   The complete process is fully documented here htt...   Apr 6 2007, 08:29 AM
- - Phil Stooke   33 sites were shortlisted from about 90 suggested ...   Apr 6 2007, 11:38 AM
- - elakdawalla   Since HiROC doesn't have a handy index to land...   Apr 6 2007, 05:19 PM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Apr 6 2007, 10:19 AM...   Apr 6 2007, 05:37 PM
|- - elakdawalla   An updated list of MSL sites as seen from MRO, inc...   May 2 2007, 11:20 PM
- - lyford   Wow - thanks Emily - this is incredibly helpful - ...   Apr 6 2007, 05:50 PM
- - algorimancer   I vote for the Hellas location. Lowest point on M...   Apr 6 2007, 06:54 PM
- - nprev   Me too; seems like that's where MSL might have...   Apr 6 2007, 10:45 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Just as long as there's no actual risk of it g...   Apr 7 2007, 03:50 AM
|- - SFJCody   Surely one of the most important lessons from MER ...   Apr 7 2007, 10:16 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Apr 7 2007, 06:16 AM) .....   Apr 7 2007, 03:09 PM
- - babakm   Although the Meridiani sites will be a "safer...   Apr 7 2007, 01:34 PM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (babakm @ Apr 7 2007, 02:34 PM) Alt...   Apr 7 2007, 01:45 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Apr 7 2007, 06:45 AM) . ...   Apr 7 2007, 04:30 PM
- - nprev   That's a really good argument re "follow ...   Apr 7 2007, 03:36 PM
- - nprev   Okay, that's the worst pun of the week...you g...   Apr 7 2007, 08:05 PM
- - edstrick   Considering that a mission requirement for MSL is ...   Apr 8 2007, 07:54 AM
- - djellison   MSL's a bit open ended really - some of the la...   Apr 8 2007, 08:46 AM
- - nprev   Gotta love it...hopefully the 4th generation rover...   Apr 8 2007, 03:14 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   For those playing along at home, the MSL Landing S...   May 3 2007, 10:04 PM
|- - tuvas   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ May 3 2007, 03:04 ...   May 3 2007, 10:35 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (tuvas @ May 3 2007, 12:35 PM) Wow,...   May 3 2007, 11:30 PM
- - elakdawalla   I think something more like "indurated soil...   May 3 2007, 10:47 PM
- - stewjack   The Riding with Robots Podcast has an interview wi...   May 4 2007, 05:08 PM
- - Oren Iishi   I'm surprised that no one has talked about lan...   Jun 12 2007, 09:43 PM
- - algorimancer   Considering the moderately persuasive argument sup...   Jun 17 2007, 03:51 PM
|- - ynyralmaen   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Jun 17 2007, 04:51 ...   Jun 18 2007, 10:39 AM
|- - algorimancer   QUOTE (ynyralmaen @ Jun 18 2007, 05:39 AM...   Jun 18 2007, 01:12 PM
|- - ynyralmaen   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Jun 18 2007, 02:12 ...   Jun 18 2007, 02:53 PM
- - ngunn   Agreed. In the absence of large scale drilling equ...   Jun 18 2007, 09:35 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jun 17 2007, 11:35 PM) Agr...   Jun 18 2007, 06:06 PM
- - ngunn   Aye, and the other one.   Jun 18 2007, 07:59 PM
- - Geographer   Why does elevation matter in designing the rover? ...   Jun 22 2007, 07:15 PM
- - djellison   The higher you go - the less air your parachute ha...   Jun 22 2007, 07:17 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   You might want to take a look at the latest versio...   Jun 22 2007, 07:18 PM
- - edstrick   The more pounds per square foot (grams per square ...   Jun 23 2007, 05:01 AM
- - PDP8E   After looking at all the MRO landing site images a...   Jul 13 2007, 03:25 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Elysium Planitia (AKA ice pack) might look like a ...   Jul 13 2007, 03:53 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 13 2007, 05:53 P...   Jul 13 2007, 04:06 PM
- - James Sorenson   Depending on what NASA's "Major" fin...   Aug 3 2008, 09:38 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Aug 3 2008, 10:38...   Aug 3 2008, 11:10 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vjkane @ Aug 3 2008, 03:10 PM) I b...   Aug 3 2008, 11:30 PM
- - nprev   Mike, could you go into more detail about the lat ...   Aug 4 2008, 12:24 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 3 2008, 04:24 PM) Mike...   Aug 4 2008, 02:13 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Aug 3 2008, 06:13 PM)...   Aug 4 2008, 09:41 PM
- - James Sorenson   For DTE, how far above or below the horizon at the...   Aug 4 2008, 08:49 PM
- - djellison   PHX doesn't do DTE But Earth on Sol 69 is mo...   Aug 4 2008, 09:27 PM
- - James Sorenson   I was saying DTE for MSL hypothetically if MSL wer...   Aug 4 2008, 09:39 PM
- - peter59   I wish nice reading ! Third MSL Landing Site W...   Sep 17 2008, 08:30 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   That thing does NOT look stable.   Sep 17 2008, 09:07 PM
- - djellison   WOW - more funky flight hardware!! I hope...   Sep 17 2008, 09:03 PM
- - Bobby   I found this article about The Potential MSL Site:...   Sep 18 2008, 04:56 AM
- - lyford   C'mon Holden!!!!   Sep 18 2008, 06:43 AM
|- - ustrax   Looks like reactions weren't all the same... ...   Sep 18 2008, 07:07 AM
- - peter59   Ranking Eberswalde 44,53 Holden ...   Sep 18 2008, 08:00 AM
- - Tman   They are still recommendations. But could it means...   Sep 18 2008, 08:56 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Tman @ Sep 18 2008, 09:56 AM) They...   Sep 18 2008, 09:30 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Tman @ Sep 18 2008, 10:56 AM) MSL ...   Sep 18 2008, 11:08 AM
- - djellison   Damn you HRSC - two observations of it, and neithe...   Sep 18 2008, 10:20 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 18 2008, 11:20 AM)...   Sep 18 2008, 10:41 AM
- - ngunn   I've got a couple of simple (simplistic?) ques...   Sep 18 2008, 10:48 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 18 2008, 03:48 AM) I...   Sep 19 2008, 11:43 PM
- - djellison   There's plenty of PDF's on the meeting web...   Sep 18 2008, 11:03 AM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 18 2008, 12:03 PM)...   Sep 18 2008, 12:04 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ngunn @ Sep 18 2008, 01:04 PM) Did...   Sep 18 2008, 12:12 PM
- - peter59   MSL landing site should be scientifically valuable...   Sep 18 2008, 11:30 AM
|- - Tman   QUOTE (peter59 @ Sep 18 2008, 01:30 PM) M...   Sep 19 2008, 04:57 PM
- - monitorlizard   I like the geology of Holden Crater and was glad t...   Sep 20 2008, 12:09 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Sep 20 2008, 04:09...   Sep 20 2008, 07:33 PM
- - vjkane   With the expectation that MSL will eventually fly,...   Oct 5 2008, 12:27 AM
- - Del Palmer   JPL announces final 4 candidates: http://www.jpl....   Nov 20 2008, 01:13 AM
|- - BrianL   QUOTE (Del Palmer @ Nov 19 2008, 07:13 PM...   Mar 28 2009, 02:40 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   Is this really news? or did I miss something? I ...   Nov 20 2008, 01:24 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 19 2008, 05:24 P...   Nov 20 2008, 01:39 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Not really! It only makes sense to take advan...   Mar 29 2009, 12:57 AM
- - HughFromAlice   Just a thought..... In the light of the MSL missi...   Mar 29 2009, 02:06 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (HughFromAlice @ Mar 29 2009, 09:06...   Mar 30 2009, 07:44 AM
|- - HughFromAlice   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Mar 30 2009, 05:14...   Mar 30 2009, 11:17 AM
- - Cruzeiro do Sul   In 2000 Nasa choose to expand the envelop for MER ...   Apr 2 2009, 11:08 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Cruzeiro do Sul @ Apr 2 2009, 12:0...   Apr 2 2009, 11:20 AM
||- - Cruzeiro do Sul   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 2 2009, 11:20 AM) ...   Apr 3 2009, 02:03 PM
|- - Nomadd22   QUOTE (Cruzeiro do Sul @ Apr 2 2009, 07:0...   Jun 4 2009, 02:24 AM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (Nomadd22 @ Jun 3 2009, 08:24 PM) D...   Jun 4 2009, 05:19 PM
- - RonJones   I know the sites of the potential mud volcano that...   Apr 10 2009, 03:48 PM
- - BrianL   If MSL is now going to be partially dependent on s...   Jul 11 2009, 03:28 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (BrianL @ Jul 11 2009, 08:28 AM) If...   Jul 11 2009, 04:00 PM
- - nprev   Skimmed the slides last night, and IIRC the main c...   Jul 11 2009, 05:28 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Some news on the landing site front. A year ago a...   Jan 8 2010, 02:58 PM
- - PDP8E   ...more musings on a caffeine powered Sunday night...   Jul 26 2010, 01:56 AM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (PDP8E @ Jul 26 2010, 01:56 AM) ......   Jul 26 2010, 04:15 AM
|- - tharrison   QUOTE (PDP8E @ Jul 25 2010, 05:56 PM) ......   Aug 3 2010, 12:03 AM
- - Stu   QUOTE (tharrison @ Aug 3 2010, 01:03 AM) ...   Aug 3 2010, 05:25 AM
- - Vultur   Hoping for Holden or Eberswalde personally, for th...   Aug 3 2010, 08:45 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Ok, this is off topic for MSL, though on topic for...   Aug 11 2010, 02:52 PM
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