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May 23 2007, 04:01 PM
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I doubt it's wind through the lava tube itself. Think of a crater - that can have a dust tail of some sort and there's no network to do that. I imagine it's just a function of prevailing wind and topography. Wind blowing over a lage flat area suddently finding a big hole is going to get chucked up a bit - you might even find that the area under the hole is at a slight negative pressure relative to the surrounding area because of it.
Another thought - given that this tube is beginning to collapse at this one obvious site and potentially many others, it's quite likely that the tube itself isn't much of a tube anymore and more like a range of adjacant chambers. Who knows...I can't imagine we will for a few decades. Doug |
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...I imagine it's just a function of prevailing wind and topography. Wind blowing over a lage flat area suddently finding a big hole is going to get chucked up a bit - you might even find that the area under the hole is at a slight negative pressure relative to the surrounding area because of it. What would it sound like next to the hole? Would it whistle in the wind? How fast would the wind have to go past the hole to get any sound at all? (High frequency or low frequency? How would it compare to a similar setup on Earth? Is the frequency dependant on the absolute depth and inner structure?) Any wild guesses? -Mike -------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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AlexBlackwell May 23, 2007, HiRISE release May 23 2007, 04:01 PM
djellison Ustrax - finally - you have what you asked for
ht... May 23 2007, 04:10 PM
ustrax QUOTE (djellison @ May 23 2007, 05:10 PM)... May 23 2007, 04:20 PM
ngunn Well, just look at that great big hole in the grou... May 23 2007, 04:12 PM
Juramike QUOTE (ngunn @ May 23 2007, 12:12 PM) Wel... May 23 2007, 10:06 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Juramike @ May 23 2007, 11:06 PM) ... May 25 2007, 10:01 AM
ustrax I've made a new animation focusing on the top-... May 25 2007, 01:47 PM
tedstryk Perhaps they could rotate the spacecraft to compen... May 25 2007, 03:03 PM
lyford It's obvious that's an Acme Portable Hole ... May 23 2007, 04:59 PM
Juramike Wow!!!
Is that the entrance or exit? May 23 2007, 05:12 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (Juramike @ May 23 2007, 07:12 AM) ... May 23 2007, 07:24 PM
nprev QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ May 23 2007, 12:24... May 23 2007, 07:48 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (nprev @ May 23 2007, 09:48 AM) (gr... May 23 2007, 07:54 PM
nprev ..okay, THIS made my jaw drop! Why so circular... May 23 2007, 06:12 PM
djellison Well - unless its many many km's - then there ... May 23 2007, 06:16 PM
stevo Looks to me like one of Kim Stanley Robinson's... May 23 2007, 06:21 PM
zoost QUOTE (stevo @ May 23 2007, 06:21 PM) .. ... May 24 2007, 11:25 AM
hendric I wonder what IR will show us, especially at night... May 23 2007, 06:39 PM
ElkGroveDan Can someone less lazy than I do the calculations o... May 23 2007, 07:20 PM
elakdawalla See this topic for more information and links to c... May 23 2007, 07:20 PM
volcanopele Given this image's location on Mars, I would p... May 23 2007, 07:32 PM
tty Yes, but it must be a very large tube since the ho... May 23 2007, 07:43 PM
nprev The former; maybe he's tight enough with the l... May 23 2007, 08:08 PM
djellison 38 degrees. Call it 130m across - sohcahtoa and a... May 23 2007, 08:21 PM
elakdawalla According to the caption on the image, though, HiR... May 23 2007, 08:22 PM
elakdawalla Just for grins, I went to HRSCview and located the... May 23 2007, 08:41 PM
nprev Nice find, Emily! Seems like it's right in... May 23 2007, 08:53 PM
tuvas Ahh, they finally released this picture. The one... May 23 2007, 10:36 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (tuvas @ May 23 2007, 02:36 PM) Oh,... May 23 2007, 11:34 PM
tuvas QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ May 23 2007, 04:34 P... May 23 2007, 11:35 PM
ElkGroveDan OK now I see the history of this with Odyssey. So... May 23 2007, 11:38 PM
dvandorn Looks like a good landing site for MSL -- if it st... May 23 2007, 11:48 PM
antipode Martian bungee jumping anyone?
Surely this wil... May 24 2007, 12:06 AM
antipode Actally, regardless of how deep these things are, ... May 24 2007, 02:08 AM
mchan MRO is in sun-synchronous orbit so the nadir point... May 24 2007, 03:20 AM
CosmicRocker QUOTE (elakdawalla @ May 23 2007, 03:41 P... May 24 2007, 04:55 AM
AndyG Excellent. ~100m across? >200m deep? What a pla... May 24 2007, 07:26 AM
ustrax Is it really impossible to dig out something from ... May 24 2007, 09:36 AM
akuo QUOTE (ustrax @ May 24 2007, 09:36 AM) Is... May 24 2007, 01:16 PM
Gray QUOTE (ustrax @ May 24 2007, 09:36 AM) No... May 24 2007, 04:25 PM
djellison Yes - it really is impossible. That's not det... May 24 2007, 10:22 AM
ustrax QUOTE (djellison @ May 24 2007, 11:22 AM)... May 24 2007, 01:17 PM
djellison What sort of liquid at .006 bar and -80degC? Woul... May 24 2007, 12:12 PM
climber I can't imagine anything else than a hole in a... May 24 2007, 12:33 PM
ngunn Regarding that overhang:
We are told that the sun... May 24 2007, 12:42 PM
djellison ^
"Oh, for those of you wanting to overlay M... May 24 2007, 12:42 PM
zoost There must be some liquids (carbon based) that abs... May 24 2007, 12:47 PM
djellison Because the ceiling is overhanging. It's a co... May 24 2007, 01:02 PM
djellison I'm not saying that you're not pulling out... May 24 2007, 01:19 PM
ustrax QUOTE (djellison @ May 24 2007, 02:19 PM)... May 24 2007, 02:04 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (djellison @ May 24 2007, 03:19 PM)... May 24 2007, 03:30 PM
akuo Binning done in the electronics before AD transfor... May 24 2007, 02:21 PM
centsworth_II Will we have to wait until there is a laser altime... May 24 2007, 02:40 PM
Juramike It's not an abyss, it's a martian oubliett... May 24 2007, 04:10 PM
Stu Maybe one day...
May 24 2007, 04:43 PM
tuvas MRO flight rules limit the off-NADIR pointing to 3... May 24 2007, 08:14 PM
ustrax Regarding the "work" I've done with ... May 25 2007, 08:08 AM
ngunn Thinking about the possible pattern of illuminatio... May 25 2007, 09:01 AM
Oersted QUOTE (ngunn @ May 25 2007, 11:01 AM) Thi... May 30 2007, 10:55 AM
ngunn QUOTE (Oersted @ May 30 2007, 11:55 AM) G... Jun 4 2007, 09:55 AM
marswiggle I had a quick look in the MOC Gallery for similar ... May 25 2007, 03:23 PM
ustrax QUOTE (marswiggle @ May 25 2007, 04:23 PM... May 25 2007, 04:15 PM
nprev Wait a minute, ustrax...are you sure that's no... May 25 2007, 05:05 PM
Gray Marswiggle,
The image of Dena that you posted has... May 25 2007, 05:22 PM
marswiggle While I don't know, let them answer, in that v... May 26 2007, 11:30 AM
Gray Thanks.
I should do more than look at the pictur... May 26 2007, 02:01 PM
tty 130 meters deep, that is really something for a la... May 26 2007, 06:31 PM
Stu What's causing that lighter area to the top of... May 27 2007, 09:48 AM
dvandorn Actually, Stu, I think the lightened area looks ro... May 27 2007, 10:08 AM
Stu QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 27 2007, 11:08 AM) ... May 27 2007, 10:21 AM
tty QUOTE (Stu @ May 27 2007, 12:21 PM) And t... May 27 2007, 05:30 PM
Stu QUOTE (djellison @ May 27 2007, 12:38 PM)... May 27 2007, 03:13 PM
nprev Chilling yet fascinating, Stu...really captures th... May 27 2007, 03:58 PM
J.J. That. Is. Incredible.
Interesting, how this one... May 28 2007, 03:12 PM
tuvas It's interesting, not since the Victoria crate... May 28 2007, 05:22 PM
bdunford I don't know if this is news to anyone, but FW... Jun 1 2007, 06:04 PM
AlexBlackwell Are There Giant Caves on Mars?
Planetary Radio
Mo... Jun 18 2007, 08:47 PM
ustrax Wow! They were able to actually get the bottom... Mar 19 2009, 08:24 PM![]() ![]() |
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