After Victoria..., .. what next? |
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 Feb 28 2008, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (fredk @ Feb 27 2008, 05:09 PM)  Perhaps you're referring to the rim of "Ithaca", as algorimancer suggested, which was visible to the east as we approached Victoria: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...ZTP2293L7M1.JPG No, it looked more like one of those rocks in the middle ground in that image, though much farther away. Unless I was hallucinating.... |
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Mar 6 2008, 08:13 PM
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 Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
A quick insight from Jim Bell on this "After Victoria" issue at spacEurope:
"A few people on the team, like Tim Parker, have been making and looking at images like yours of more distant craters. If we are fortunate enough to continue to be alive once we reach a consensus that we are "done" in Victoria, then these are certainly some of the juiciest potential next targets!" I like juicy stuff...  Speaking of juicy...there's also a new book on the way...  -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Mar 7 2008, 06:30 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
Wow! Thanks for the heads-up on Jim Bell's appearance in your blog, ustrax. I was happy to learn that the team has not ruled out "juicy" targets far away, and also that they have not yet tired of Victoria's nearby secrets.
Some of us have been eagerly anticipating Jim's 3D book, so thanks also for that update. Congratulations. Your blog has become required reading. -------------------- ...Tom
I'm not a Space Fan, I'm a Space Exploration Enthusiast. |
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Mar 8 2008, 02:51 AM
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(Echoes of thanks to ustrax for his blog) From Jim Bell's statement: QUOTE Many of us hope to drive over to Cape Verde and analyze those layers (and fallen pieces of unreachable upper layers) in more detail. That could take months, too, or it could be impossible from a rover driving and power/communications perspective (cliffs block a large piece of the sky!). I've been wondering about Verde looming larger, and whether it wouldn't be more prudent to head the other way for survival's sake as the rover would be angled more towards the sun. |
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Mar 8 2008, 04:46 AM
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No Contesto, Sahib!
 Verde is wreathed in shadow. Cp Verde PM viewEven in the afternoon. Frio, on the other hand, is mostly illuminated through the day: Cabo Frio PM view AND there's deeper exposures there. no brainer 
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Mar 8 2008, 05:11 AM
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QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 8 2008, 04:46 AM) Frio, on the other hand, is mostly illuminated through the day: Cabo Frio PM view AND there's deeper exposures there. no brainer The slumped promentary in the background looks interesting. Anticlockwise around Victoria seems a reasonable way to spend the next year or so. |
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Mar 8 2008, 04:57 PM
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It is a cool promontory. Better view here.
I found this comment interesting: QUOTE For the short term (many more months, at least), we will likely stay in Victoria and continue to measure the layered stratigraphy along the Duck Bay traverse. Many more months. I take that to mean they have decided it is safe to drive in deeper, and we won't be leaving soon. Or perhaps they will backtrack upslope and reexamine the upper layers in more detail? This sounds a bit funny, since we heard from Squyres recently that he was concerned about wheels and was getting anxious to get out.
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Mar 8 2008, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (Shaka @ Mar 7 2008, 09:46 PM) Frio, on the other hand, is mostly illuminated through the day: Cabo Frio PM view AND there's deeper exposures there. In that image it also looks like there is a sheet of sand between us and Cabo Frio. |
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Mar 8 2008, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
Yes, that's the case toward either cape. The question to be addressed is whether the sand slide is traversable. There is cause for concern in light of the deep scuff marks made by Oppy in the sand between two of the rock slabs a while ago. If close inspection suggests that we can't cross those areas, we will have to go back up Duck Bay at least as far as the bright ring to circle around to Frio. That will take a while, but it's time we have.
As to the "collapsed cape" beyond Frio, I don't see the appeal of an area that probably has it's deepest layers buried under the collapse. Deeper is better. Frio is better unless its slope is too great. -------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Mar 8 2008, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (brellis @ Mar 8 2008, 02:51 AM) (Echoes of thanks to ustrax for his blog) I'll try to improve in the future... Until then I can't avoid to see Victoria's exploration as the prelude to somehting bigger...even if we spent here an another year...I am that trusty on Oppy... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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Mar 12 2008, 03:57 PM
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Slightly off-topic, and just a short question. Does Postcards from Mars include pictures from Victoria Crater?
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Mar 13 2008, 05:44 AM
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No, it doesn't. The book went into its first printing in November of 2006, shortly after Opportunity arrived at Victoria
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Mar 17 2008, 08:26 PM
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Thanks for the reply. So, I think I'll wait for the book they'll publish when the rovers are no more...
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Mar 17 2008, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE (Oersted @ Mar 17 2008, 09:26 PM) Thanks for the reply. So, I think I'll wait for the book they'll publish when the rovers are no more... You'll be 274 years old by then... Oups, sorry Ted, I could not resist 
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Mar 23 2008, 12:45 AM
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LOL 
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