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Jun 9 2007, 02:39 AM
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Science 1 June 2007:
Vol. 316. no. 5829, p. 1269 News of the Week SPACE SCIENCE: Stern Looks for Way Out of NASA's Budget Squeeze Andrew Lawler His $5.4 billion budget is stretched thin, but rather than cancel space projects nearing launch or ask for more money, NASA's new science chief Alan Stern says he intends to beef up lunar science, champion smaller and less complex spacecraft, and insist on hard-nosed cost estimates before larger missions can win approval. Full article: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/316/5829/1269a I especially liked this line: "I don't have to kill any missions," he insists. But he said NASA will consider firing those principal investigators in charge of missions that spiral out of control. |
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Jun 14 2007, 02:21 PM
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You make some truly excellent points, Littlebit. It seems that the one area in which aerospace holds a greater appeal than other, more highly compensated and stable engineering disciplines is in its intrinsic appeal to sense of wonder. It's "cool" and "sexy" to work on spacecraft systems. For some engineers, this is enough to lure them into aerospace engineering. For others, it just doesn't outweigh the disparities in compensation and job security.
Y'all have to remember that in the late 1950s through the late 1960s, America so highly encouraged its best and brightest to specialize in aerospace engineering that we created a crop of people who were literally able to put men on the Moon. And then we thanked them, gave a few of them some medals, took most of their jobs away, and said "We don't need what you do anymore -- go find something worthwhile to do." The engineering community hasn't forgotten the massive layoffs of the late 1960s into the early 1970s, and I can't blame them. So -- what do we do to make aerospace engineering a well-compensated and nationally critical discipline once again? As much as people don't want to hear it, I think the first step is that more money needs to be spent on aerospace projects, and those projects need to have enough committment from the people and the government to make the discipline seem worthwhile to those who are making their career decisions today. How do we accomplish that? I wish I knew. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Greg Hullender Stern Looks for Way Out of NASA's Budget Squeeze Jun 9 2007, 02:39 AM
nprev I don't envy him this. Budget control is damn ... Jun 9 2007, 02:55 AM
ngunn QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 9 2007, 03:55 AM) I do... Jun 9 2007, 09:37 PM
Greg Hullender There's a difference between research and engi... Jun 10 2007, 04:19 AM
MaxSt QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jun 9 2007, 11:19... Jun 10 2007, 10:51 PM
nprev Good observations, Greg.
I'd say that it rea... Jun 10 2007, 04:36 AM
djellison I know just how Alan feels - I had £5000 to do a c... Jun 10 2007, 10:06 AM
Greg Hullender Using new technologies for the first time -- espec... Jun 10 2007, 02:38 PM
Greg Hullender Folks who know the math better than I do tell me n... Jun 11 2007, 03:25 AM
djellison Sounds like your advocating a progam of only very ... Jun 11 2007, 06:59 AM
mchan QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 10 2007, 11:59 PM)... Jun 11 2007, 08:40 AM

helvick QUOTE (mchan @ Jun 11 2007, 09:40 AM) On ... Jun 11 2007, 02:23 PM

mchan QUOTE (helvick @ Jun 11 2007, 07:23 AM) I... Jun 13 2007, 10:41 AM
Greg Hullender QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 10 2007, 11:59 PM)... Jun 11 2007, 02:16 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jun 11 2007, 10:1... Jun 11 2007, 02:51 PM
cndwrld People have been doing space science for a long ti... Jun 11 2007, 10:53 AM
nprev Hmm. Very good points, Steve, and they seem to har... Jun 12 2007, 03:37 AM
Greg Hullender Helvick: I agree competely about the JWST.
Steve:... Jun 12 2007, 03:38 AM
stevesliva QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jun 11 2007, 11:3... Jun 12 2007, 05:08 AM
dvandorn Unfortunately, the tendency towards "there mu... Jun 12 2007, 05:01 PM
gndonald QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 13 2007, 01:01 AM) ... Jun 14 2007, 03:40 PM
nprev True words, DV; definitely food for thought.
The ... Jun 13 2007, 01:32 AM
Littlebit An even broader upscaling of cost is the distribut... Jun 13 2007, 02:39 PM
dvandorn You point out a key factor in understanding how th... Jun 13 2007, 06:07 PM
nprev QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 13 2007, 11:07 AM) ... Jun 14 2007, 01:30 AM
Littlebit QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 13 2007, 07:30 PM) Wel... Jun 14 2007, 02:05 PM
Littlebit While I am on a role, there are two more major cul... Jun 14 2007, 03:55 PM
monitorlizard Maybe space science could benefit from the Air For... Jun 14 2007, 07:33 PM
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Littlebit QUOTE (monitorlizard @ Jun 14 2007, 01:33... Jun 18 2007, 07:42 PM
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Littlebit QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jun 18 2007, 02:11... Jun 19 2007, 03:13 PM

nprev QUOTE (Littlebit @ Jun 19 2007, 08:13 AM)... Aug 25 2007, 12:35 AM

stevesliva QUOTE (Littlebit @ Jun 19 2007, 11:13 AM)... Aug 25 2007, 01:38 AM

Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (Littlebit @ Jun 19 2007, 11:13 AM)... Aug 27 2007, 01:05 PM

Jim from NSF.com QUOTE (Littlebit @ Jun 19 2007, 11:13 AM)... Aug 27 2007, 01:08 PM

nprev QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Aug 27 2007, 06... Aug 27 2007, 01:28 PM
JRehling QUOTE (Littlebit @ Jun 18 2007, 12:42 PM)... Sep 5 2007, 03:23 PM
PhilHorzempa Check out Alan Stern's comments in the latest ... Aug 24 2007, 03:59 PM
Jim from NSF.com microgravity doesn't need to be simulated for ... Aug 27 2007, 02:54 PM
remcook "microgravity doesn't need to be simulate... Aug 27 2007, 03:53 PM
djellison Indeed - the ISS is being used as an LDEF platform... Aug 27 2007, 05:07 PM
nprev Thanks, Doug!
Well, the wheel doubtlessly ... Aug 27 2007, 11:14 PM
Rakhir QUOTE (Littlebit @ Jun 18 2007, 07:42 PM)... Sep 5 2007, 03:42 PM
PhilHorzempa NASA has convened the NOSSE committee to review fu... Sep 19 2007, 05:06 PM
JRehling The link doesn't work, but this small modifica... Sep 19 2007, 05:27 PM
djellison QUOTE (JRehling @ Sep 19 2007, 06:27 PM) ... Sep 19 2007, 05:38 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (JRehling @ Sep 19 2007, 12:27 PM) ... Sep 19 2007, 05:55 PM
PhilHorzempa I applaud Stern's efforts to get the most out ... Sep 24 2007, 08:41 PM
AscendingNode QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ Sep 24 2007, 01:41 ... Sep 24 2007, 09:09 PM
PhilHorzempa A recent white paper by Paul Spudis, titled ... Oct 5 2007, 05:00 PM
dvandorn Note how o'Phil neglects to mention that Spudi... Oct 5 2007, 05:25 PM
PhilCo126 Let's be realistic and hope to see a slight in... Oct 5 2007, 06:01 PM
nprev A bit of potential light in this regard: the Senat... Oct 6 2007, 02:28 AM
PhilHorzempa Alan Stern continues to do an excellent job at NAS... Feb 26 2008, 10:53 PM
nprev All I can say is hats off to Alan. I've had to... Feb 27 2008, 01:38 AM
PhilHorzempa I hope that a budget issue regarding future New Fr... Mar 25 2008, 01:54 AM
mps In the same presentation is noted that Juno will c... Mar 25 2008, 12:04 PM
Mariner9 That's a darn good question, and your guess is... Mar 26 2008, 06:06 AM
Stephen Not sure whether this has been mentioned yet but A... Mar 27 2008, 05:58 AM
PhilHorzempa As Alan Stern leaves NASA, I find myself sad. In ... Mar 31 2008, 04:07 AM![]() ![]() |
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