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Atlantis Launches to ISS, Landed at Edwards AFB 2:49:38 PST |
Jun 10 2007, 03:24 AM
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NASA is studying the rip, but they are not concerned at the moment because the rip is in a non-critical area. Atlantis will reach ISS tomorrow afternoon to add the next set of solar panels. |
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Jun 12 2007, 01:46 AM
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Merciless Robot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 8791 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Don't envy the last Shuttle astronauts, just want them to do well and get home all right. Hopefully, I'll live long enough to someday see a 'Shuttle' Mark II making manned spaceflight at last as routine and safe as air travel...quite a dream, but undoubtedly achievable in some way. EDIT: Not to say I told ya so, but I told ya so...they're going to try a repair on the dislodged heat blanket. This action is almost certainly not in response to calculated flight safety risk. The PR implications of failing to take action are potentially formidable, and NASA's supervision is acting accordingly. System boundaries must always include evaluation of human factors at all levels... -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jun 14 2007, 01:56 PM
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EDIT: Not to say I told ya so, but I told ya so...they're going to try a repair on the dislodged heat blanket. This action is almost certainly not in response to calculated flight safety risk. The PR implications of failing to take action are potentially formidable, and NASA's supervision is acting accordingly. System boundaries must always include evaluation of human factors at all levels... Well -- you also can't underestimate the potential hazards. For many, many years, the orbiters came back with varying degrees of damage to the TPS, and had only minor damage. One flight even came back with burn-throughs down to the aluminum airframe in a couple of places (I want to say it was STS-37, but I'm working from memory and could be wrong). All of them survived, though, so it was believed that the TPS could sustain pretty much *any* damage that foam strikes could inflict and still survive. That belief was tragically wrong. Just because every Shuttle that has sustained damage to the TPS on the OMS pods (including the very first flight of Columbia) has come back without mishap doesn't mean you can make the same mistake that was made on STS-107. You can't even risk the remote possibility that something worse could happen *this time* than has ever happened before. Remember, those pods are literally *glued* onto the Shuttle main airframe for each and every flight -- even one instance of thermally-initiated debonding could result in a partial or complete separation of the pod from the vehicle, and if that were to happen at *any* point in the descent trajectory, you're talking about a Very Bad Day. It's not just that they want to make for good PR -- this is an example of how decision-making has necessarily been adjusted based on lessons learned during the investigation of the Columbia accident. Even if you don't believe that something like this loose blanket can pose a risk of loss of vehicle and crew, you have to admit in your decision-making process that you cannot ever be *certain* of that. So, you do what you can to make the vehicle as clean as possible prior to de-orbit. I wouldn't have expected any other decision. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Drkskywxlt Atlantis Launches to ISS Jun 10 2007, 03:24 AM
nprev I predict that NASA will err on the side of cautio... Jun 10 2007, 03:36 AM
Jim from NSF.com I doubt it. The shuttle has reenterd many times b... Jun 10 2007, 05:08 AM
edstrick Interesting faction from the post launch briefing.... Jun 10 2007, 08:58 AM
climber QUOTE (edstrick @ Jun 10 2007, 10:58 AM) ... Jun 11 2007, 08:02 PM
punkboi QUOTE (edstrick @ Jun 10 2007, 01:58 AM) ... Jun 13 2007, 03:55 AM
djellison I was hoping to see Orbiter + ET on Friday night -... Jun 10 2007, 10:29 AM
Stu Nice pic Doug
We saw Atlantis from beside Lak... Jun 10 2007, 10:36 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 10 2007, 05:36 AM) ...As... Jun 14 2007, 01:42 PM
Littlebit QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 14 2007, 07:42 AM) ... Jun 20 2007, 03:39 PM
dilo Very good catch, Doug; unfortunately, no visible p... Jun 10 2007, 04:00 PM
Stu QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 10 2007, 05:00 PM) Are ... Jun 10 2007, 06:24 PM
Stu QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 10 2007, 05:00 PM) (whi... Jun 10 2007, 06:28 PM
climber QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 10 2007, 08:28 PM) Oops,... Jun 10 2007, 07:51 PM
djellison You want to see the reaction when I'm out the ... Jun 10 2007, 04:11 PM
Sunspot The times Heavens Above give for the ISS and Shutt... Jun 10 2007, 04:30 PM
djellison ISS will be more accurate. The Shuttle is the one... Jun 10 2007, 04:51 PM
Stu Haha... Actually, it was "performance art... Jun 10 2007, 08:09 PM
climber QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 10 2007, 10:09 PM) Haha.... Jun 10 2007, 08:51 PM
Littlebit QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 10 2007, 02:09 PM) Haha.... Jun 14 2007, 01:33 PM
Drkskywxlt Atlantis now docked with ISS. Atlantis did a bell... Jun 10 2007, 08:28 PM
djellison Pity they were not docking in a few more hours - a... Jun 10 2007, 10:19 PM
Sunspot Great view too... very bright. Jun 10 2007, 10:24 PM
Analyst Nope, 15 launches including two contingency.
STS-... Jun 13 2007, 06:47 AM
ugordan OMG, these amateur astronomers just keep surprisin... Jun 13 2007, 11:17 AM
Toma B QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 13 2007, 01:17 PM) O... Jun 13 2007, 12:16 PM
climber QUOTE (ugordan @ Jun 13 2007, 01:17 PM) T... Jun 13 2007, 10:25 PM
remcook Unbelievable! thank goodness for amateurs and ... Jun 13 2007, 11:24 AM
ddeerrff Quoting John Shannon, NASA's deputy shuttle pr... Jun 13 2007, 04:40 PM
DavidVicari QUOTE (ddeerrff @ Jun 13 2007, 04:40 PM) ... Jun 13 2007, 06:15 PM
dvandorn Well, if that's the case, someone should tell ... Jun 13 2007, 06:26 PM
nprev QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 13 2007, 11:26 AM) ... Jun 14 2007, 02:46 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 13 2007, 09:46 PM) DV ... Jun 14 2007, 04:09 AM
lyford Apollo 17's duct tape fender repair fits nicel... Jun 14 2007, 04:45 AM
dvandorn To be fair, the makeshift fender was assembled (i.... Jun 14 2007, 06:53 AM
climber TOD, can I say again how much I appreciate your co... Jun 14 2007, 09:06 AM
dvandorn Thanks, climber! I surely appreciate the kind... Jun 14 2007, 12:56 PM
climber QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 14 2007, 02:56 PM) ... Jun 14 2007, 07:14 PM
stevesliva There are some EVA photos up on the NASA site, inc... Jun 15 2007, 04:56 AM
nprev Great video of the departure ISS flyaround showing... Jun 20 2007, 04:02 AM
Stu Time to reach for the swear boxes guys...
New loo... Jun 20 2007, 03:22 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 20 2007, 05:22 PM) Time ... Jun 20 2007, 04:07 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 20 2007, 11:22 AM) I kno... Jun 20 2007, 06:47 PM
Sunspot It's looking like a "proper" space s... Jun 20 2007, 04:51 PM
dvandorn They have three of the four large solar array unit... Jun 20 2007, 05:21 PM
remcook just a shame they're always pointed at the sun... Jun 20 2007, 05:42 PM
dvandorn The answer to your question, Steve, is yes.
The... Jun 20 2007, 07:53 PM
Analyst QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 20 2007, 07:53 PM) ... Jun 21 2007, 06:56 AM
stevesliva QUOTE (Analyst @ Jun 21 2007, 02:56 AM) 2... Jun 21 2007, 01:23 PM
ElkGroveDan I made a point of watching for my 10:37 pass last ... Jun 20 2007, 09:49 PM
mchan http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/07062...andin... Jun 21 2007, 03:50 AM
punkboi High quality photos of the ISS in its TIE Fighter ... Jun 21 2007, 06:34 AM
djellison As I understand it the MPLM's don't have t... Jun 21 2007, 02:05 PM
Tesheiner IIRC, they are considering the possibility to upgr... Jun 21 2007, 03:33 PM
dilo I tried to picture ISS and Atlantis while passing ... Jun 21 2007, 08:48 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 21 2007, 10:48 PM) I tr... Jun 22 2007, 06:09 AM
nprev Edwards AFB was officially activated today as a st... Jun 21 2007, 11:18 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 21 2007, 03:18 PM) (Fe... Jun 21 2007, 11:28 PM
nprev (sigh)...thinkin' we're too old to re-live... Jun 21 2007, 11:55 PM
punkboi I heard the sonic booms while watching the landing... Jun 23 2007, 07:32 PM
stevesliva I wandered around the shuttle launch complex at Va... Jun 22 2007, 04:36 AM
mchan While SLC-6 was never used for MOL or Shuttle, it ... Jun 22 2007, 05:38 AM
abalone Im thinking that the shuttle drops behind and is t... Jun 22 2007, 06:23 AM
Tesheiner > Im thinking that the shuttle drops behind and... Jun 22 2007, 07:39 AM
climber QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jun 22 2007, 09:39 AM)... Jun 22 2007, 10:08 AM
Tesheiner No please! I have more then enough with the ro... Jun 22 2007, 10:49 AM
abalone I still find it difficult to believe that the shut... Jun 22 2007, 02:51 PM
ElkGroveDan It looks like they are going for Edwards AFB in Ca... Jun 22 2007, 06:12 PM
djellison I've got an entry checklist from nsf to follow... Jun 22 2007, 06:14 PM
ElkGroveDan Looks like the approach will be almost directly fr... Jun 22 2007, 06:19 PM
AlexBlackwell I remember Shuttle landings when I lived in SoCal.... Jun 22 2007, 06:22 PM
Stu Anyone got any advice on the best link to watch NA... Jun 22 2007, 06:25 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 22 2007, 01:25 PM) Anyon... Jun 22 2007, 06:41 PM
djellison nasa.gov/ntv is it really.
Doug Jun 22 2007, 06:36 PM
ElkGroveDan mission control Jun 22 2007, 06:36 PM
ElkGroveDan .. Jun 22 2007, 06:40 PM
ElkGroveDan support vehicle convoy at Edwards AFB Jun 22 2007, 06:43 PM
hendric Stu, being on that other continent, this might wor... Jun 22 2007, 07:08 PM
Stu Thanks hendric, I'll give that a go... and tha... Jun 22 2007, 07:29 PM
ElkGroveDan 200,000 feet travelling 11,000mph Jun 22 2007, 07:34 PM
ElkGroveDan .. Jun 22 2007, 07:45 PM
ElkGroveDan From the shuttle interior heads-up display Jun 22 2007, 07:49 PM
ElkGroveDan .. Jun 22 2007, 07:52 PM
Stu ... and she's down safely.
Said it before,... Jun 22 2007, 07:55 PM
ElkGroveDan .. Jun 22 2007, 07:57 PM
ElkGroveDan .. Jun 22 2007, 08:06 PM
Geographer A tie fighter in hot pursuit?
Actually the ISS... Jun 22 2007, 08:09 PM
ElkGroveDan If anyone wants them I have a couple of AVI captur... Jun 22 2007, 08:39 PM
djellison It's disgustingly expensive, a dreadfull way t... Jun 22 2007, 09:50 PM
nprev Sad to report that no sonic boom was heard in sout... Jun 22 2007, 11:42 PM
BPCooper It was a little different than usual:
http://www.... Jun 23 2007, 12:36 AM
nprev Ah. Thanks very much, BP: frankly, I suspected tha... Jun 23 2007, 04:31 AM
lyford QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 22 2007, 09:31 PM) App... Jun 23 2007, 04:26 PM
ElkGroveDan I think you are right nprev. A guy I know in San ... Jun 23 2007, 05:36 AM
nprev Apologies, lyford! Did not notice your local... Jun 23 2007, 06:17 PM
nprev Really? Where were you, PB? Thought you lived nort... Jun 23 2007, 07:37 PM
punkboi I live 30 miles east of L.A. (near Pomona)
While ... Jun 23 2007, 07:39 PM
nprev Oh, okay...makes sense now. I bet EGD's Dad pr... Jun 23 2007, 07:55 PM![]() ![]() |
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