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Welcome Professor "brine splat" Burt, "a chance to ask questions... or raise objections"
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post Jun 15 2007, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (dburt @ Jun 14 2007, 11:04 PM) *
As an aside, the related suggestion that at least some of the fine-grained layers above or below any boulder
deposits (or elsewhere on Mars) could likewise represent ancient impact deposits (non-ballistic fine-grained
sand and dust distributed over vast areas by fast-moving, turbulent, erosive gaseous density currents - a.k.a.
impact surge clouds - or by the winds as later fallout) already seems to have aroused considerable controversy
on this forum, but again that's peripheral to Emily's boulder comment.


So you're the dburt of Basal Surge fame?

"ASU geologists L. Paul Knauth and Donald Burt, who along with Kenneth Wohletz of Los Alamos National
Laboratory, say that base surges resulting from massive explosions caused by meteorite strikes offer a simpler
and more consistent explanation for the rock formations and sediment layers found at the Opportunity site.
"
http://www.asu.edu/news/stories/200512/200..._meteorites.htm

I haven't followed the situation closely enough to ask any good questions, but I wonder if anyone else here
would like to ask about your current views.

for reference, the basal surge thread is here:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...surge&st=30
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- centsworth_II   Welcome Professor "brine splat" Burt   Jun 15 2007, 08:37 PM
- - dvandorn   I was just thumbing through Squyres' "Rov...   Jul 3 2007, 04:54 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 3 2007, 09:54 AM) I...   Jul 4 2007, 04:33 AM
- - tdemko   Like Tom, I've been lurking as this excellent ...   Jul 3 2007, 11:11 PM
- - centsworth_II   HDP Don, It sounds like you are arguing that all t...   Jul 4 2007, 02:10 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jul 3 2007, 07:10 ...   Jul 5 2007, 01:48 AM
|- - MarsIsImportant   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 4 2007, 08:48 PM) Well...   Jul 5 2007, 08:30 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 5 2007, 09:3...   Jul 5 2007, 03:27 PM
||- - dburt   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 5 2007, 08:27 AM) ...   Jul 6 2007, 12:12 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 5 2007, 01:3...   Jul 6 2007, 05:13 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 6 2007, 12:13 AM) Rega...   Jul 6 2007, 06:04 AM
- - Kye Goodwin   Doctor Burt, Regarding your reply 108 and my 99: ...   Jul 4 2007, 04:40 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (Kye Goodwin @ Jul 4 2007, 09:40 AM...   Jul 6 2007, 03:01 AM
- - centsworth_II   HDP Don, Tell me again why you're having troub...   Jul 5 2007, 02:57 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jul 4 2007, 07:57 ...   Jul 6 2007, 06:45 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 6 2007, 10:45 AM) Hey,...   Jul 6 2007, 07:06 PM
- - Bill Harris   You're still wrong; in fact, so wrong that try...   Jul 5 2007, 03:54 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jul 4 2007, 11:54 PM...   Jul 5 2007, 02:56 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I think some of you are being way too antagonistic...   Jul 5 2007, 05:20 AM
- - nprev   Agreed, CR. While I am nowhere near knowledgable e...   Jul 5 2007, 05:33 AM
- - Shaka   Whoa!! Careful, Bill. You're getting ...   Jul 5 2007, 07:04 AM
- - Bill Harris   OK --Bill   Jul 5 2007, 07:12 AM
- - ngunn   I've been watching this with interest but in s...   Jul 5 2007, 09:29 PM
- - djellison   I'd agree with everything you've said ther...   Jul 5 2007, 09:35 PM
- - hendric   Dburt, I've had a few nagging questions on t...   Jul 6 2007, 05:34 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (hendric @ Jul 5 2007, 10:34 PM) Db...   Jul 6 2007, 07:17 PM
|- - MarsIsImportant   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 6 2007, 02:17 PM) 2) I...   Jul 6 2007, 08:13 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 6 2007, 01:1...   Jul 6 2007, 09:21 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   Good point "the other Doug". I'd al...   Jul 6 2007, 03:16 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 6 2007, 08:1...   Jul 6 2007, 07:56 PM
|- - MarsIsImportant   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 6 2007, 02:56 PM) Mars...   Jul 6 2007, 08:20 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 6 2007, 01:2...   Jul 6 2007, 08:51 PM
- - don   dburt - A repentant Prof Burt !! A tear j...   Jul 6 2007, 03:55 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (don @ Jul 6 2007, 08:55 AM) dburt ...   Jul 6 2007, 08:25 PM
- - Kye Goodwin   Details, details. A major reason why I have becom...   Jul 6 2007, 04:03 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   Well, since conjecturing is in play. Another poss...   Jul 6 2007, 04:40 PM
- - dvandorn   The problem with positing a series of heavy bombar...   Jul 6 2007, 05:55 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   That's why a more local event particular to Ma...   Jul 6 2007, 06:18 PM
- - nprev   Forgive me if this has been asked & answered e...   Jul 6 2007, 08:47 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 6 2007, 01:47 PM) Forg...   Jul 6 2007, 09:48 PM
|- - denis   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 6 2007, 11:48 PM) For ...   Jul 7 2007, 09:58 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (denis @ Jul 7 2007, 02:58 PM) Dist...   Jul 7 2007, 10:42 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 7 2007, 03:42 PM) Welc...   Jul 9 2007, 01:29 AM
- - MarsIsImportant   Ok. Hardness doesn't matter. I only keyed on...   Jul 6 2007, 09:22 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 6 2007, 02:2...   Jul 6 2007, 09:50 PM
|- - MarsIsImportant   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 6 2007, 04:50 PM) Hows...   Jul 6 2007, 10:21 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 6 2007, 03:2...   Jul 6 2007, 10:34 PM
|- - MarsIsImportant   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 6 2007, 05:34 PM) But ...   Jul 7 2007, 04:13 AM
- - MarsIsImportant   The MER team ruled out Volcanism as a causative ag...   Jul 6 2007, 10:19 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 6 2007, 03:1...   Jul 6 2007, 10:59 PM
- - dvandorn   Just one last comment on the relative softness of ...   Jul 6 2007, 10:29 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 6 2007, 03:29 PM) J...   Jul 6 2007, 11:06 PM
- - tdemko   As some of you know, I don't have nearly the t...   Jul 7 2007, 03:33 AM
- - don   "Other Don - That's all well and good, bu...   Jul 8 2007, 02:11 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (don @ Jul 7 2007, 07:11 PM) I agre...   Jul 9 2007, 01:47 AM
- - Kye Goodwin   tdemko, Thanks for your reply 154. It is good to...   Jul 8 2007, 03:59 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Kye Goodwin @ Jul 8 2007, 10:59 AM...   Jul 8 2007, 04:15 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jul 8 2007, 09:15 AM) ....   Jul 9 2007, 02:55 AM
- - tdemko   "Normal" grading is coarsest grain size ...   Jul 8 2007, 07:38 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   How do you explain the near pure silica deposits f...   Jul 9 2007, 04:36 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 9 2007, 09:3...   Jul 9 2007, 10:10 PM
- - Kye Goodwin   MarsIsImportant, Re your 165, There is no necessit...   Jul 9 2007, 06:53 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   Kye that was a good reasoned response. That fact ...   Jul 9 2007, 10:08 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   Yes, that was a good answer Professor Burt. But m...   Jul 9 2007, 10:24 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 9 2007, 03:2...   Jul 10 2007, 12:25 AM
|- - MarsIsImportant   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 9 2007, 07:25 PM) Um, ...   Jul 10 2007, 01:01 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 9 2007, 06:0...   Jul 10 2007, 01:13 AM
|- - MarsIsImportant   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 9 2007, 08:13 PM) Um, ...   Jul 10 2007, 01:24 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 9 2007, 06:2...   Jul 10 2007, 02:03 AM
- - dburt   This thread seems to be decaying into the same non...   Jul 10 2007, 12:02 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (dburt @ Jul 10 2007, 01:02 AM) Doe...   Jul 10 2007, 07:10 AM
- - MarsIsImportant   ...Very interesting arguments Professor. Many of ...   Jul 10 2007, 12:54 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (MarsIsImportant @ Jul 9 2007, 05:5...   Jul 10 2007, 01:53 AM
- - MarsIsImportant   Well, I cannot speak for those who sleep. Howeve...   Jul 10 2007, 02:15 AM
- - ngunn   Well, I for one find all this very interesting, ev...   Jul 10 2007, 09:27 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jul 10 2007, 02:27 AM) Wel...   Jul 11 2007, 01:54 AM
- - denis   HDP Don, One fact is missing from your class exam...   Jul 10 2007, 10:12 AM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (denis @ Jul 10 2007, 03:12 AM) As ...   Jul 11 2007, 02:44 AM
- - marsbug   I was infamous for dozing off during lectures, but...   Jul 10 2007, 01:37 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (marsbug @ Jul 10 2007, 02:37 PM) I...   Jul 10 2007, 03:14 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (marsbug @ Jul 10 2007, 06:37 AM) ....   Jul 11 2007, 02:55 AM
- - centsworth_II   I don't know if anyone has yet referenced the ...   Jul 10 2007, 03:57 PM
|- - dburt   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jul 10 2007, 08:57...   Jul 11 2007, 05:23 AM
- - MarsIsImportant   I think the berries forming after the layers were ...   Jul 10 2007, 04:31 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   I was looking thru Opportunities Micro-Imager file...   Jul 10 2007, 06:15 PM
- - hendric   Dr. Burt, One big difference between Earth and M...   Jul 10 2007, 06:20 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   Thank you Professor, You finally addressed my big...   Jul 11 2007, 03:29 AM
- - Kye Goodwin   It seems that Dr. Burt and his co-author are havin...   Jul 11 2007, 05:22 AM
|- - MarsIsImportant   QUOTE (Kye Goodwin @ Jul 11 2007, 12:22 A...   Jul 11 2007, 02:57 PM
- - dburt   Here's a final one before I go home (before th...   Jul 11 2007, 05:56 AM
- - djellison   A straw poll (and given the nature of forum softw...   Jul 11 2007, 03:07 PM
- - MarsIsImportant   Yes, Professor you have addressed the topic before...   Jul 11 2007, 03:21 PM
- - don   dBurt – back to the sulfates: You’ve stated often...   Jul 11 2007, 03:27 PM
- - denis   HDP Don re#190,195 Thanks so much for your input....   Jul 11 2007, 04:56 PM
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