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Jun 24 2007, 06:11 PM
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A small lake in Siberia may be a secondary impact feature from the famous 1908 Tunguska event:
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/...2.x?cookieSet=1 -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jul 3 2007, 06:23 PM
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The answer is sort of "all of the above." The factors that contribute to a bolide explosion include:
Angle of Attack: A shallow entry allows for a lot more heating time. A more direct trajectory straight towards the ground creates a higher heating pulse, but for a far shorter amount of time. On a steep-angle trajectory, the impactor reaches the ground very quickly after encountering the upper atmosphere and is usually still "frozen" in the middle when it strikes. But shallow-angle impactors have time to heat through far more effectively, even though the peak heat pulse is less. Composition: It's likely that only bodies containing volatiles will actually explode dramatically in the air prior to impact. A large stony body will simply ablate as you suggest. No matter how long it is heated, the worst that will happen to such a stony body is that it will come apart at maximum heat load and/or aerodynamic stress. Such a break-up can look a little like an explosion, but the energy is all kinetic. If the impactor is a cometary fragment, however, with frozen volatiles within, those volatiles can heat up as the bolide travels through the atmosphere. Let's say a lot of the impactor is made up of methane ices and clathrates -- and in the lower atmosphere, the body begins to break up as hundreds of tons of now-flammable methane and other hydrocarbon products are released into a white-hot plasma trail surrounded by fire-feeding oxygen. It goes kablooey... Speed: This isn't as important of a factor, in that a shallow entry angle will usually slow a bolide to relatively slow speeds by the time it heats enough to explode. But a higher-energy entry will actually be less likely to cause an explosion in that it can reduce the heating time, as compared to the heating time endured by a slower impactor traveling along the same trajectory. A lot of this depends on whether the body's vacuum perigee is a positive or negative number at the time it hits the upper atmosphere. Now, I'm not a meteorite expert, but I play one on the Internet... -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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nprev Tunguska Crater Found? Jun 24 2007, 06:11 PM
Sunspot Secondary impact crater? I always thought that th... Jun 25 2007, 08:23 AM
nprev QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jun 25 2007, 01:23 AM) S... Jun 26 2007, 12:34 AM
dvandorn I know -- same here. And the physical effects fou... Jun 25 2007, 01:54 PM
ngunn I couldn't open that original link so went loo... Jun 25 2007, 02:34 PM
Floyd Seems like a good piece of science. They have evi... Jun 25 2007, 04:14 PM
Mongo It would be appropriate if the possible buried mas... Jun 26 2007, 01:38 PM
TheChemist Some critique also in the BBC story . Jun 26 2007, 02:52 PM
David QUOTE (TheChemist @ Jun 26 2007, 02:52 PM... Jun 26 2007, 03:54 PM

Floyd QUOTE (David @ Jun 26 2007, 11:54 AM) The... Jul 1 2007, 12:54 PM
Paolo QUOTE (TheChemist @ Jun 26 2007, 04:52 PM... Jul 1 2007, 03:27 PM
ugordan Isn't the whole point that the area was uninha... Jun 26 2007, 04:21 PM
volcanopele Yeah, I would be cautious as well about the lake h... Jun 26 2007, 05:20 PM
AlexBlackwell To me, the whole Tunguska story sure sounded sexie... Jun 26 2007, 05:23 PM
Juramike (I couldn't access either link, something abou... Jun 26 2007, 05:46 PM
Juramike Space.com article out. (Sonar image of lake botto... Jun 26 2007, 06:23 PM
Floyd Strange, both links work for me. Just tested them... Jun 26 2007, 11:13 PM
David The area wasn't uninhabited; sparsely inhabite... Jun 27 2007, 12:59 AM
nprev I have to wonder just how close eyewitnesses could... Jul 1 2007, 02:27 AM
edstrick Presuming the lake pre-dates the impact and is not... Jul 2 2007, 08:00 AM
tanjent Can someone explain what would make a meteor explo... Jul 3 2007, 05:42 PM
Mongo I believe that the kinetic energy of a meteoroid i... Jul 3 2007, 07:02 PM
helvick Any body that is not absolutely solid will disinte... Jul 3 2007, 07:35 PM
helvick Ah beaten to it!
I don't think that the i... Jul 3 2007, 07:41 PM
nprev BTW, is the Tunguska impactor still tentatively th... Jul 4 2007, 04:35 AM
edstrick "Can someone explain what would make a meteor... Jul 4 2007, 07:57 AM
nprev Seems as if the estimated impact velocity places s... Jul 4 2007, 08:37 PM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 4 2007, 02:37 PM) EDIT... Jul 7 2007, 07:17 PM
nprev Maybe; the surrounding area looks pretty flat, but... Jul 7 2007, 09:13 PM
PhilCo126 While we're celebrating the 100th anniversary ... Jun 7 2008, 06:46 PM
tasp I might speculate that a body entering the earth... Jun 7 2008, 11:39 PM
dilo I personally knew one of the authors of the articl... Jun 8 2008, 08:14 AM
Doc One question...
Was any material from the blasted... Jun 10 2008, 07:27 PM
nprev I'd always thought that some sort of residue h... Jun 11 2008, 12:34 AM
PhilCo126 Some "superb" Tunguska web resources:
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