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Tunguska Crater Found?
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post Jun 24 2007, 06:11 PM
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A small lake in Siberia may be a secondary impact feature from the famous 1908 Tunguska event:

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/...2.x?cookieSet=1


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post Jul 3 2007, 06:23 PM
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The answer is sort of "all of the above." The factors that contribute to a bolide explosion include:

Angle of Attack: A shallow entry allows for a lot more heating time. A more direct trajectory straight towards the ground creates a higher heating pulse, but for a far shorter amount of time. On a steep-angle trajectory, the impactor reaches the ground very quickly after encountering the upper atmosphere and is usually still "frozen" in the middle when it strikes. But shallow-angle impactors have time to heat through far more effectively, even though the peak heat pulse is less.

Composition: It's likely that only bodies containing volatiles will actually explode dramatically in the air prior to impact. A large stony body will simply ablate as you suggest. No matter how long it is heated, the worst that will happen to such a stony body is that it will come apart at maximum heat load and/or aerodynamic stress. Such a break-up can look a little like an explosion, but the energy is all kinetic. If the impactor is a cometary fragment, however, with frozen volatiles within, those volatiles can heat up as the bolide travels through the atmosphere. Let's say a lot of the impactor is made up of methane ices and clathrates -- and in the lower atmosphere, the body begins to break up as hundreds of tons of now-flammable methane and other hydrocarbon products are released into a white-hot plasma trail surrounded by fire-feeding oxygen. It goes kablooey... biggrin.gif As evidence, we have the Tagish Lake meteor fragments, which are some of the few examples of what (we think) is a cometary fragment that have been recovered (the pieces were actually fine-grained clays, not stone or metals like most meteorites). Not coincidentally, the Tagish Lake body exploded in mid-air.

Speed: This isn't as important of a factor, in that a shallow entry angle will usually slow a bolide to relatively slow speeds by the time it heats enough to explode. But a higher-energy entry will actually be less likely to cause an explosion in that it can reduce the heating time, as compared to the heating time endured by a slower impactor traveling along the same trajectory. A lot of this depends on whether the body's vacuum perigee is a positive or negative number at the time it hits the upper atmosphere.

Now, I'm not a meteorite expert, but I play one on the Internet... smile.gif However, I think I have the basics correct, here.

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- nprev   Tunguska Crater Found?   Jun 24 2007, 06:11 PM
- - Sunspot   Secondary impact crater? I always thought that th...   Jun 25 2007, 08:23 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jun 25 2007, 01:23 AM) S...   Jun 26 2007, 12:34 AM
- - dvandorn   I know -- same here. And the physical effects fou...   Jun 25 2007, 01:54 PM
- - ngunn   I couldn't open that original link so went loo...   Jun 25 2007, 02:34 PM
- - Floyd   Seems like a good piece of science. They have evi...   Jun 25 2007, 04:14 PM
- - Mongo   It would be appropriate if the possible buried mas...   Jun 26 2007, 01:38 PM
- - TheChemist   Some critique also in the BBC story .   Jun 26 2007, 02:52 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (TheChemist @ Jun 26 2007, 02:52 PM...   Jun 26 2007, 03:54 PM
||- - Floyd   QUOTE (David @ Jun 26 2007, 11:54 AM) The...   Jul 1 2007, 12:54 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (TheChemist @ Jun 26 2007, 04:52 PM...   Jul 1 2007, 03:27 PM
- - ugordan   Isn't the whole point that the area was uninha...   Jun 26 2007, 04:21 PM
- - volcanopele   Yeah, I would be cautious as well about the lake h...   Jun 26 2007, 05:20 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   To me, the whole Tunguska story sure sounded sexie...   Jun 26 2007, 05:23 PM
- - Juramike   (I couldn't access either link, something abou...   Jun 26 2007, 05:46 PM
- - Juramike   Space.com article out. (Sonar image of lake botto...   Jun 26 2007, 06:23 PM
- - Floyd   Strange, both links work for me. Just tested them...   Jun 26 2007, 11:13 PM
- - David   The area wasn't uninhabited; sparsely inhabite...   Jun 27 2007, 12:59 AM
- - nprev   I have to wonder just how close eyewitnesses could...   Jul 1 2007, 02:27 AM
- - edstrick   Presuming the lake pre-dates the impact and is not...   Jul 2 2007, 08:00 AM
- - tanjent   Can someone explain what would make a meteor explo...   Jul 3 2007, 05:42 PM
- - dvandorn   The answer is sort of "all of the above....   Jul 3 2007, 06:23 PM
- - Mongo   I believe that the kinetic energy of a meteoroid i...   Jul 3 2007, 07:02 PM
- - helvick   Any body that is not absolutely solid will disinte...   Jul 3 2007, 07:35 PM
- - helvick   Ah beaten to it! I don't think that the i...   Jul 3 2007, 07:41 PM
- - nprev   BTW, is the Tunguska impactor still tentatively th...   Jul 4 2007, 04:35 AM
- - edstrick   "Can someone explain what would make a meteor...   Jul 4 2007, 07:57 AM
- - nprev   Seems as if the estimated impact velocity places s...   Jul 4 2007, 08:37 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 4 2007, 02:37 PM) EDIT...   Jul 7 2007, 07:17 PM
- - nprev   Maybe; the surrounding area looks pretty flat, but...   Jul 7 2007, 09:13 PM
- - PhilCo126   While we're celebrating the 100th anniversary ...   Jun 7 2008, 06:46 PM
- - tasp   I might speculate that a body entering the earth...   Jun 7 2008, 11:39 PM
- - dilo   I personally knew one of the authors of the articl...   Jun 8 2008, 08:14 AM
- - Doc   One question... Was any material from the blasted...   Jun 10 2008, 07:27 PM
- - nprev   I'd always thought that some sort of residue h...   Jun 11 2008, 12:34 AM
- - PhilCo126   Some "superb" Tunguska web resources: h...   Sep 9 2008, 07:54 PM


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