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Tethys flyby and rev 47 (late June 2007) |
Jun 29 2007, 08:54 AM
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Rover Driver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
Images are up
also saw some Mimas images in which it looks like pacman |
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Jun 29 2007, 09:50 AM
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The images look a bit underexposed to me..
The Mimas images nicely fill a gap in the Mimas map! |
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Jun 29 2007, 10:25 AM
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I have used the solar system simulator to see that the images of Mimas cover the longitudes 120W to 0W and from 0W to 300W, which have not been well imaged so far.
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Jun 29 2007, 10:40 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
The images look a bit underexposed to me.. The Mimas images nicely fill a gap in the Mimas map! I'd say the raw histogram stretcher is acting up instead. The Mimas images show a very subtle band similar to the one found on Tethys' leading hemisphere. -------------------- |
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Jun 29 2007, 04:54 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 270 Joined: 29-December 04 From: NLA0: Member No.: 133 |
Just two quick stitches:
http://paranoid.dechengst.nl/saturn/Tethys...27-JUN-2007.jpg http://paranoid.dechengst.nl/saturn/Tethys...27-JUN-2007.jpg -------------------- PDP, VAX and Alpha fanatic ; HP-Compaq is the Satan! ; Let us pray daily while facing Maynard! ; Life starts at 150 km/h ;
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Jun 29 2007, 05:28 PM
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Jun 29 2007, 06:41 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Are you seeing two dark dark bands or one bright band? I'm seeing a slightly brighter band (better visible in UV filters) that seems to end at the right hand side limb. It's probably just a slight albedo variation similar to the one seen to the west of Herschel - see this image for an extreme enhancement of that west side (it appears bluish). -------------------- |
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Jun 29 2007, 08:31 PM
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A most impressive crack on Tethys (contrast adjusted and cropped, rotated so sun is at upper left). Also at http://www.flickr.com/photos/ehartwell/663279037/ N00085211 - http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...iImageID=114769 |
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Jun 29 2007, 08:35 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
That one caught my eye too. It's mysterious to me how it could have formed. It's like someone dragged a stick across Tethys.
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Jun 29 2007, 09:43 PM
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![]() SewingMachine ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
I need a bucket and a mop for all these gallons of drool. Traveling this month, so sadly unable to be all over these marvelous images like flies on...yeah. All those bitty fractures and ice that really looks like ice at high phase angles. Everything north of the scene in the 9 March 2005 view of the Ithaca Chasma should really smooth out the map of this hemisphere...I wonder if the camera team planned it this way all along (never understood why they didn't take in the whole canyon back then when they had the opportunity). Telemachus looks incredible at this resolution too. Thanks for the stitches DEChengst, and second the warm welcome to Eric!
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Jun 29 2007, 09:51 PM
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Jun 29 2007, 10:59 PM
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That crack is weird. My first (and crazy) idea was if this could be a 'continuous crater chain' because there are some crater-like features along it. Anyway, lots of interesting images and Telemachus looks awesome at this resolution.
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Jun 30 2007, 12:01 AM
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![]() IMG to PNG GOD ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2257 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
I usually don't like replying to myself but I just noticed that some nice images of Enceladus have appeared on the raw images page.
And WOW: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...iImageID=114825 |
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Jun 30 2007, 12:04 AM
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Nicely spotted. Yes, that is a "WOW" image.
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Jun 30 2007, 12:37 AM
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Whoa. Awesome! But why oh why did they take the green image so much later than the red and blue?
That one was apparently taken at 12:52 UT: And that's Pandora lurking between Enceladus and Mimas. I love the Saturn system. --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Jun 30 2007, 11:17 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
But why oh why did they take the green image so much later than the red and blue? There's a blue image? I'm not seeing it The filter combo is unusual, perhaps there are more frames that haven't been downlinked yet? This is just begging to be a Kodak moment. -------------------- |
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Jun 30 2007, 12:12 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3009 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
QUOTE A most impressive crack on Tethys... Impressive but not unusual. I noticed many of these cracks on dechengst's two stitches. Their orientation does not appear to be related to the nearby grooved terrain. Odd world. --Bill -------------------- |
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Jun 30 2007, 04:47 PM
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![]() Director of Galilean Photography ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 93 |
What I found interesting in DEChengst's stiches were the long arcing rilles, one in the middle of the first picture, one up and right from the crack noted earlier. To me, they resemble the cycloid cracks that we see on Europa.
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Jun 30 2007, 05:06 PM
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There's a blue image? I'm not seeing it The filter combo is unusual, perhaps there are more frames that haven't been downlinked yet? This is just begging to be a Kodak moment. Sorry. I saw the Green and the Red and assumed that the last of the three was a Blue, but it's an IR3. I sure hope there are more coming down! Yes, that's an odd combo of filters, so it seems very likely that more were taken, but I guess we'll just have to wait to be sure. --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Jul 2 2007, 06:50 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
I've heard through the grapevine that there's some glitch getting these images posted on the raw images page, and that there are in fact RED/GRN/BL1 available. Hopefully we'll see them later today or tomorrow. Keep your eyes peeled!
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Jul 2 2007, 09:45 PM
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That crack is weird. My first (and crazy) idea was if this could be a 'continuous crater chain' because there are some crater-like features along it. Anyway, lots of interesting images and Telemachus looks awesome at this resolution. My thought is that there are faults under the surface and they're just wide/narrow enough that the surface has collapsed in places, but not others. Check out this lava tube-derived feature that looks very similar on Ascraeus Mons on Mars: http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/msss/c...ease/26705r.gif |
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Jul 3 2007, 12:19 PM
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While we're waiting for the complete raw sequence to be posted, here's something I don't normally do - a colorization.
The original image (N00085255) was lossy compressed so it's pretty blocky, I tried to remove blockiness while not killing all detail in the process. -------------------- |
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Jul 3 2007, 01:30 PM
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![]() Interplanetary Dumpster Diver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4408 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Looks great! One thing that helps with this set is that with the previous coverage of Enceladus and Saturn, as well as the filters we do have, it isn't too much of a stretch to guess how it would look with a blue image added.
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Jul 3 2007, 03:45 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Thanks. I actually did use an old composite of mine as color source for limb colors. The viewing geometry was pretty similar so I assumed they're a good match.
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Jul 3 2007, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
The Mimas images nicely fill a gap in the Mimas map! Good call CAP-Team. I have a map version now with a new image added. http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#MIMAS -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Jul 3 2007, 11:05 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 948 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
Scalbers, this may be a crazy idea, but here it is anyway. Different parts of the image have illumination from opposite angles--which makes viewing difficult--the mind puts mounds next to craters. What if you inverted some parts of the image so the illumination always seems to come from the top or right. Would anything get seriously messed up by mixing positive and negative images?
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Jul 4 2007, 12:26 AM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
I've done some of that - check out my Eros mosaic and see if you can spot the (very small) inverted section. But it's very hard to do successfully, especially messed up if there are any shadows, and of course albedo variations as well.
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Jul 4 2007, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Well said Phil. I'm unable to find the inverted region in your Eros map, that's a good sign.
Many of the Mimas images have low sun angles so with all the cratering this seems to be more of an issue compared with the other satellites. One quick fix might be to scale back portions of the new image near the terminator, at least that would restore the rim of Herschel to make it whole again. There may be a way to do the suggested inversion (using the new image) within the framework of my software - so I'll see if I get some time to try that out. -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Jul 4 2007, 04:49 PM
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Well heck, let's just fix it the old-fashioned way--anyone here good with an airbrush?
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Jul 11 2007, 07:50 AM
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![]() SewingMachine ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
-------------------- ...if you don't like my melody, i'll sing it in a major key, i'll sing it very happily. heavens! everybody's all aboard? let's take it back to that minor chord...
Exploitcorporations on Flickr (in progress) : https://www.flickr.com/photos/135024395@N07/ |
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Jul 11 2007, 07:57 AM
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![]() SewingMachine ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
The global view looking back. Just a suggestion for Steve...the press version of this if released might really level out the shading variations on your map on this hemisphere.
-------------------- ...if you don't like my melody, i'll sing it in a major key, i'll sing it very happily. heavens! everybody's all aboard? let's take it back to that minor chord...
Exploitcorporations on Flickr (in progress) : https://www.flickr.com/photos/135024395@N07/ |
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Jul 11 2007, 07:01 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Glad to see EC's back with some interesting new mosaics. I've started with 3 of the individual raw images and I can see they may help with showing Ithaca Chasma better. There's always the tradeoff of good consistent lighting relative to resolution with the various images. EC's mosaic suggests there are more images that can be added to the 3 that I've tried. I suppose I can try either the individual images or a mosaic depending on availability.
-------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Jul 11 2007, 09:13 PM
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Jan 29 2008, 08:22 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Time to resurrect this thread as I've started to add some of the Rev 47 imagery to my map. I think I figured out which 4 images to use that represents what was shown in EC's global mosaic. So here's a first cut at adding them in, hopefully showing Ithaca Chasma and environs better.
The full size 4K version is at http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#TETHYS Steve |
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