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July 20 2007 icy moon images (rev 48) |
Jul 22 2007, 02:41 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
Latest Tethys and Enceladus images are up
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...0&storedQ=0 |
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Jul 22 2007, 03:35 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Looks like some new details on Tethys north of Melanthius...
-------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Jul 22 2007, 06:34 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 16-May 06 From: Geneva, Switzerland Member No.: 773 |
Finally some sharper views of the great Odysseus basin !
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...2/N00086709.jpg Marc. |
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Jul 23 2007, 02:16 AM
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![]() SewingMachine ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
Woohoo! Very nice set this pass, and scads of new and better-defined detail north of Melanthius to concur with Steve. Quick-an' filthy summary here:
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Jul 23 2007, 04:07 AM
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Merciless Robot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 8791 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Whoo-hoo! EC's back, layin' down the phat montages old-school...long time no perceive, don't be gone like that no more, yo!
Tethys looks more and more interesting. Confess that I don't know the nomenclature, but that rather 'lengthy' central peak in that large crater is intriguing...busted open a fault, maybe? Certainly merits futher examination. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jul 23 2007, 06:52 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1870 Joined: 20-February 05 Member No.: 174 |
In the "Pedantic Quibbles Department"...
"Finally some sharper views of the great Odysseus basin !" Is it a "basin" if the floor is essentially everywhere convex? (It may be a basin in relation to the Tethyian geoid, of course) |
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Jul 23 2007, 01:42 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
I say, if you walk downhill to get to the middle and uphill to get to the edge, it's a basin, no matter what it looks like from orbit! The smaller the body, the weirder the basins -- most of Itokawa's basins appear noticeably convex from above, but they are "holes" as far as local gravity is concerned.
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Jul 23 2007, 03:15 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 220 Joined: 13-October 05 Member No.: 528 |
If using an Earth based term like "basin" on Tethys seems wrong, using it to describe features on a rubble pile like Itakowa is even furthur out of the park.
Even weirder to me was the Japanese naming one of the features on Itokawa the "Muses Sea". Although I grant you it occured to me that perhaps it was an in joke, since the Hayabusa mission was originally called "Muses C" if I recall correctly. I think a new nomenclature is needed. Of course, only a handful of people on Earth would ever learn it, so maybe it would just make things even more difficult than they already are. |
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Jul 23 2007, 04:14 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
No, a new nomenclature is not needed! Rules of supposed logic can't be applied backwards down the line of an evolving disciplinary jargon. A basin in this context is a multi-ringed impact structure, it has nothing to do with its depth. Just as the word 'crater', originally meaning a cup, and applied to cup-shaped depressions on the Moon and Earth, can be applied to Wargentin (on the Moon) despite it being filled to the rim.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jul 23 2007, 05:19 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 16-May 06 From: Geneva, Switzerland Member No.: 773 |
When I used the term "basin" for Odysseus I meant "giant impact scar".
Sorry if I misused the word. However, I would agree with Phil when he says that it has nothing to do with its depth. Just as an example, Valhalla and Asgard on Callisto are also called basins and are almost flat. I think there are plenty of such examples in our solar system. Marc. |
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Jul 23 2007, 05:34 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 3242 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
Exactly, Phil. What is a patera on Io isn't necessarily the same on Mars, or Venus, or Titan. Same goes with Lacus for Titan and the Moon.
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jul 23 2007, 07:59 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 16-May 06 From: Geneva, Switzerland Member No.: 773 |
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Jul 23 2007, 08:16 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 3242 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
Tis an overexposed image of Rhea
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jul 24 2007, 07:01 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1870 Joined: 20-February 05 Member No.: 174 |
<grin>
Pedantic quibbles can stir up an interesting... and relevant... discussion! |
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Jul 24 2007, 05:42 PM
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Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 8-November 06 From: Indiana, USA Member No.: 1337 |
New Hyperion images are in.
There is a great crater with a central peak visible. I never knew it existed. |
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Jul 24 2007, 05:58 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Whoah, those are really cool images. Phil! Help! What/where are we looking at?
Speaking of Hyperion, I just noticed this little item in today's Significant Events Report. QUOTE Tuesday, July 17 (DOY 198): The final sequence development process for S34 kicked off today. The sequence is unusual in that it will be composed of four parts. The first part is similar to a normal background sequence but will run for only two weeks. This is followed by uplink and checkout activities for CDS version 10 flight software that will last for about a week and a half. During this time period there will be no science observations. After the conclusion of the CDS activities, a mini-sequence devoted to Hyperion observations will run for about four days. The last piece of S34 is again like a normal background sequence with full science activities. This will run for a little over a week, concluding on or about November 1. The Hyperion mini-sequence base products and stripped subsequences and the sequence products for the pieces of the S34 background sequence have been released for team review. Looks like the Hyperion close approach will be within about 120,000 km on October 21; and during the second week or so of October, there'll be no science data at all. --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Jul 24 2007, 06:02 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
You're looking at the big facet frequently seen before including in the highest resolution mosaic from the really close encounter. It's just that we have not seen such perfect low angle lighting before.
![]() Incidentally, I don't think I ever posted this before: It's a cylindrical mosaic of Voyager images. This new pic is of the roughly circular patch on the left side. It was made by me with the assistance of my friend Alyson Ford. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jul 24 2007, 06:17 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Wow, that lump really does look different to me every time.
3 frame rotation composed of colorized IR3 frames - these are the brightest raws available. Looks like there's no end in sight for the histogram stretcher hiccup.
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Jul 24 2007, 06:20 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Neat animation. It really lets you see Hyperion as a faceted shape rather than a body that anyone could describe as "round."
Gordan, how exactly did you colorize this? --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Jul 24 2007, 06:21 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 3242 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
That's Helios IIRC
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
The Gish Bar Times - A Blog all about Jupiter's Moon Io |
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Jul 24 2007, 06:39 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Gordan, how exactly did you colorize this? I used my other color shots as reference, in natural color views there's virtually no color variation anyway. I simply applied a level balance in Photoshop that reduced the max brightness of the green channel to 238 (from 255) and blue to 219, thus giving the brownish-red hue and afterwards increased the saturation a tad.
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Jul 24 2007, 09:23 PM
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![]() SewingMachine ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
You're looking at the big facet frequently seen before including in the highest resolution mosaic from the really close encounter. It's just that we have not seen such perfect low angle lighting before. I might be totally off my meds here, but I disagree. This feature looks like the prominent crater to the "southeast" (!?!) of the big facet seen during the targeted encounter (bottom center in your map). To illustrate: I think this is the bite out of the cookie (forgive me, my 4-year-old was doing impressions of you-know-who this morning). If I'm wrong Phil, you can pummel me with rocks, preferrably irregular and faceted. EDIT: D'oh! VP got it before I did. Unrelated bonus points in Io vs Europa deathmatch. I'll get you my pretty, if it's the last thing I do! (There's no defense against buckets of superheated sulphur. Appealing to UMSF High Council). -------------------- ...if you don't like my melody, i'll sing it in a major key, i'll sing it very happily. heavens! everybody's all aboard? let's take it back to that minor chord...
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Jul 24 2007, 09:51 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
That's a really helpful comparison, EC. Thanks!
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Jul 24 2007, 10:44 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10265 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
You're absolutely right, EC, I had it upside down! Sorry about that. Can I get some of your meds?
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jul 24 2007, 10:51 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3652 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
You mean there's a "This side up" on Hyperion?
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Jul 24 2007, 10:54 PM
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![]() SewingMachine ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
Sure thing! Be forewarned...upside-down won't get any better with them, but they do allow you to drive backwards. I ran over my own post fifteen minutes ago.
Edit: "This Side Up" on Hyperion remains sort of ambiguous. I suggest that Proteus is the box Hyperion came in, and that Ted has reprocessed the image enough that the lettering may finally be visible. -------------------- ...if you don't like my melody, i'll sing it in a major key, i'll sing it very happily. heavens! everybody's all aboard? let's take it back to that minor chord...
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Jul 24 2007, 11:30 PM
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![]() The Poet Dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Not daring for a moment to think I can compete with or compare my mucking about to the work already posted here, but I couldn't resist having a go at this Hyperion image myself, purely because it reminded me of the images DEEP IMPACT sent back from its target comet... anyone else think that?
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Jul 25 2007, 10:16 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
Enceladus passing in front of Dione
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...iImageID=117089 A short animation |
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Jul 28 2007, 06:35 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1688 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Hi,
Quick map update for Tethys adding a medium-res image from the July encounter. I'll still want to figure out where the images in EC's hi-res mosaic (post #4) are located. Also thinking of the earlier Ithaca Chasma mosaic... http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#TETHYS -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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