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Aug 31 2007, 07:27 PM
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according to the last information at roscosmos.ru
Russia now officially targeting 2027 for her first manned mission to the moon surface |
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Sep 5 2007, 10:03 AM
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B)--> That's not quite true. Soviet Voskhod did not have any crew escape system. Buran's rapid escape tunnel would be of no use when it get airborne. It was vulnerable just as space shuttle is if not more. [/quote] Yes, I stand corrected! The ejection seats (and pressure suits) were removed to fit the three (very brave) occupants. The 2-man Voskhod 2 re-introduced the pressure suits, but still no crew escape. Yeeeshh!! What a death trap waiting to happen! And yes, the Buran escape tunnel was only intended as a means of escape in the event of catastrophic failure while on the pad. Once it was airborne, the cosmonauts main protection was faith in the engineers and a few muttered Hail Mary's (or the Orthodox equivalent!). Oh yes, about the restart ability. I've read this in several sources, but a quick google came up with this from http://www.geocities.com/launchreport/proton.html. Not what I would call an authoritive source, but good enough. "Proton's RSC Energia Block DM fourth stage is derived from the Block D stage developed for the Soviet lunar landing program during the 1960s. The stage is powered by a restartable 11D58M (RD-58M) gimbaled main engine that burns liquid oxygen (LOX) and kerosene to deliver 8,5 tons of thrust." The gist is that the 4th stage is based on Block-D lunar hardware, so its been around for a long time. It has a good history of Mars and Venus injection maneourves, so the failure on Mars 96 was very atypical and indeed unfortunate. |
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Zvezdichko No russian spaceship to the Moon until 2027 ... Aug 31 2007, 07:27 PM
climber QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Aug 31 2007, 09:27 PM... Aug 31 2007, 07:43 PM
dvandorn At the rate this is going, the Dutchy of Grand Fen... Aug 31 2007, 10:54 PM
nprev Heh, heh...nice reference! From the novel, IIR... Sep 1 2007, 12:52 AM
Phil Stooke It's not clear to me that this is anything but... Sep 1 2007, 01:10 AM
ElkGroveDan One fine Saturday afternoon in April 2027:
Russia... Sep 1 2007, 01:37 AM
nprev Heh, heh...like it, EGD!
Not to drop names, b... Sep 1 2007, 05:06 AM
GravityWaves QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 1 2007, 02:06 AM) Not ... Sep 6 2007, 12:11 PM
edstrick ......But what about the Bobolinks?...... Sep 1 2007, 07:02 AM
ustrax QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Aug 31 2007, 08:27 PM... Sep 2 2007, 04:49 PM
nprev I believe it! You got a scoop for us, ustrax... Sep 2 2007, 06:09 PM
AndyG 2027? SpaceDaily says 2025.
Mind you, they also s... Sep 3 2007, 09:42 AM
Phil Stooke I think that was just lifted from another source. ... Sep 3 2007, 11:38 AM
dvandorn Just for the record, and yes, I'm sure everyon... Sep 4 2007, 12:02 AM
Zvezdichko Imo Russia now has the capabilities of launching a... Sep 4 2007, 10:37 AM
Big_Gazza Yep, but two essential resources are sadly lacking... Sep 4 2007, 10:49 AM
nprev To be fair, though, it would be pretty hard for th... Sep 4 2007, 12:50 PM
Zvezdichko Russia itself may not be able to fund its own luna... Sep 4 2007, 12:59 PM
ugordan QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Sep 4 2007, 01:59 PM)... Sep 4 2007, 01:02 PM
Tesheiner Is there any current/future plan to man-rate Arian... Sep 4 2007, 02:18 PM
djellison No - Hermes was the only proposal, but it was cann... Sep 4 2007, 02:35 PM
nprev Haven't heard much about Japan's very simi... Sep 4 2007, 02:46 PM
dvandorn Just in way of clarification...
The Proton cannot... Sep 4 2007, 08:00 PM
nprev QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 4 2007, 01:00 PM) J... Sep 5 2007, 12:54 AM
Zvezdichko To be honest, I don't trust Proton even for un... Sep 4 2007, 10:32 PM
Big_Gazza I think the criticism of the Proton (UR-500) boost... Sep 5 2007, 12:01 AM
Zvezdichko QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Sep 5 2007, 12:01 AM) ... Sep 5 2007, 09:52 AM
Big_Gazza In response to Dvandorns' posting, I think it ... Sep 5 2007, 12:28 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Sep 4 2007, 07:28 PM) ... Sep 6 2007, 10:37 AM
Toma B QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Sep 5 2007, 02:01 AM) ... Sep 5 2007, 09:01 AM
Big_Gazza QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Sep 5 2007, 07:52 PM)... Sep 5 2007, 10:22 AM
Big_Gazza Another proton failure... JCSAT11, a Japanese coms... Sep 5 2007, 11:13 PM
Pavel QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Sep 5 2007, 07:13 PM) ... Sep 5 2007, 11:23 PM
nprev Not good, all right. Baikonur's commercial ... Sep 6 2007, 02:56 AM
Zvezdichko What happened today was a clear example of what I ... Sep 6 2007, 03:03 AM
nprev Not sure it would be wise to kick the whole design... Sep 6 2007, 03:08 AM
Zvezdichko Yes, I speak a lot about disadvantages of the syst... Sep 6 2007, 03:14 AM
nprev Think you're definitely right. Man, there... Sep 6 2007, 03:41 AM
Zvezdichko Errr... and the next flight of a Proton rocket *WA... Sep 6 2007, 04:00 AM
djellison There's ISS components due to launch on it I p... Sep 6 2007, 07:23 AM
Big_Gazza Launch mishaps aside, Proton will still keep flyin... Sep 6 2007, 10:51 AM
ugordan I think most, if not all russian launch vehicles u... Sep 6 2007, 11:18 AM
mchan QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 6 2007, 04:18 AM) Di... Sep 7 2007, 07:08 AM
nprev Oh, yeah, it's true; there is no sinecure, not... Sep 6 2007, 01:54 PM
Zvezdichko Falcon's second flight was much better than th... Sep 6 2007, 02:25 PM![]() ![]() |
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