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 Aug 31 2007, 07:27 PM
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according to the last information at roscosmos.ru
Russia now officially targeting 2027 for her first manned mission to the moon surface 
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Sep 6 2007, 10:51 AM
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Launch mishaps aside, Proton will still keep flying. Firstly because the Russians don't have another heavy-lifter to replace it (yet) and secondly because the demand is still high (a Proton launch costs about half an Ariane 5 flight, and lifts significantly more).
Plus the Kazaks are paid handsomely for rental of this barren wind-swept tundra. I think the liklihood of finding another tenant other than RSA is rather slim!!  The proton 2nd stage ignition is a very odd fish. Unlike most multistage boosters where the 1st stage seperates and drops away prior to 2nd stage ignition, with Proton the 2nd stage fires with the 1st still attached!! Exhaust gases are vented through the interstage lattice, and the top of the 1st stage is insulated against the heat and blast. Once the 2nd stage is firing, the bolts are fired and 1st stage is discarded. Most unusual. I wonder if this method results in 2nd stage engine/plumbing damage caused by shockwaves reflecting off the 1st stage back into the engine bay? It would certainly result in some interesting dynamics... |
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Zvezdichko No russian spaceship to the Moon until 2027 ... Aug 31 2007, 07:27 PM
climber QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Aug 31 2007, 09:27 PM... Aug 31 2007, 07:43 PM dvandorn At the rate this is going, the Dutchy of Grand Fen... Aug 31 2007, 10:54 PM nprev Heh, heh...nice reference! From the novel, IIR... Sep 1 2007, 12:52 AM Phil Stooke It's not clear to me that this is anything but... Sep 1 2007, 01:10 AM ElkGroveDan One fine Saturday afternoon in April 2027:
Russia... Sep 1 2007, 01:37 AM nprev Heh, heh...like it, EGD!
Not to drop names, b... Sep 1 2007, 05:06 AM
GravityWaves QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 1 2007, 02:06 AM) Not ... Sep 6 2007, 12:11 PM edstrick ......But what about the Bobolinks?...... Sep 1 2007, 07:02 AM ustrax QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Aug 31 2007, 08:27 PM... Sep 2 2007, 04:49 PM nprev I believe it! You got a scoop for us, ustrax... Sep 2 2007, 06:09 PM AndyG 2027? SpaceDaily says 2025.
Mind you, they also s... Sep 3 2007, 09:42 AM Phil Stooke I think that was just lifted from another source. ... Sep 3 2007, 11:38 AM dvandorn Just for the record, and yes, I'm sure everyon... Sep 4 2007, 12:02 AM Zvezdichko Imo Russia now has the capabilities of launching a... Sep 4 2007, 10:37 AM Big_Gazza Yep, but two essential resources are sadly lacking... Sep 4 2007, 10:49 AM nprev To be fair, though, it would be pretty hard for th... Sep 4 2007, 12:50 PM Zvezdichko Russia itself may not be able to fund its own luna... Sep 4 2007, 12:59 PM ugordan QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Sep 4 2007, 01:59 PM)... Sep 4 2007, 01:02 PM Tesheiner Is there any current/future plan to man-rate Arian... Sep 4 2007, 02:18 PM djellison No - Hermes was the only proposal, but it was cann... Sep 4 2007, 02:35 PM nprev Haven't heard much about Japan's very simi... Sep 4 2007, 02:46 PM dvandorn Just in way of clarification...
The Proton cannot... Sep 4 2007, 08:00 PM nprev QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 4 2007, 01:00 PM) J... Sep 5 2007, 12:54 AM Zvezdichko To be honest, I don't trust Proton even for un... Sep 4 2007, 10:32 PM Big_Gazza I think the criticism of the Proton (UR-500) boost... Sep 5 2007, 12:01 AM Zvezdichko QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Sep 5 2007, 12:01 AM) ... Sep 5 2007, 09:52 AM Big_Gazza In response to Dvandorns' posting, I think it ... Sep 5 2007, 12:28 AM dvandorn QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Sep 4 2007, 07:28 PM) ... Sep 6 2007, 10:37 AM Toma B QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Sep 5 2007, 02:01 AM) ... Sep 5 2007, 09:01 AM Big_Gazza B)-->QUOTE(Toma B @ Sep 5 2007, 07:01 PM)... Sep 5 2007, 10:03 AM Big_Gazza QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Sep 5 2007, 07:52 PM)... Sep 5 2007, 10:22 AM Big_Gazza Another proton failure... JCSAT11, a Japanese coms... Sep 5 2007, 11:13 PM Pavel QUOTE (Big_Gazza @ Sep 5 2007, 07:13 PM) ... Sep 5 2007, 11:23 PM nprev Not good, all right. Baikonur's commercial ... Sep 6 2007, 02:56 AM Zvezdichko What happened today was a clear example of what I ... Sep 6 2007, 03:03 AM nprev Not sure it would be wise to kick the whole design... Sep 6 2007, 03:08 AM Zvezdichko Yes, I speak a lot about disadvantages of the syst... Sep 6 2007, 03:14 AM nprev Think you're definitely right. Man, there... Sep 6 2007, 03:41 AM Zvezdichko Errr... and the next flight of a Proton rocket *WA... Sep 6 2007, 04:00 AM djellison There's ISS components due to launch on it I p... Sep 6 2007, 07:23 AM ugordan I think most, if not all russian launch vehicles u... Sep 6 2007, 11:18 AM mchan QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 6 2007, 04:18 AM) Di... Sep 7 2007, 07:08 AM nprev Oh, yeah, it's true; there is no sinecure, not... Sep 6 2007, 01:54 PM Zvezdichko Falcon's second flight was much better than th... Sep 6 2007, 02:25 PM |
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