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Formal Pro-Am & Pro UMSF Involvement?
algorimancer
post Sep 7 2007, 01:39 PM
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Looking ahead to MSL (2010 isn't that far away), it occurs to me that it would be of mutual benefit to try to establish some sort of formal involvement between UMSF (or an interested pool of UMSF members, possibly coordinating through a private sub-forum) and the MSL PI's and associated teams. We've certainly got the talent pool, professional and otherwise, particularly considering the cartography, software development, and analysis which appears here. They could get the benefit of some competent assistance in a variety of forms (gratis), and we could acquire an inside line to the data products we care about. Anyone else think this would be a good idea? I'm not entirely sure how best to go about establishing this relationship, but we already have some members of the MSL team onboard here.

From my own perspective, I would like to be able to hit the ground running from the software perspective from the moment of landing. This means knowledge of such things as vehicle and instrument models (camera models) as well as locations and formats of data products - images, color calibration, and something to the effect of the pancam tracking database. Some aspects of data analysis might also be handled here, and I'm sure we'd all enjoy sharing opinions about mission planning smile.gif
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post Sep 7 2007, 02:36 PM
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I think that's a terrific idea, man! smile.gif There's a long tradition of pro-am collaboration in amateur astronomy, which in fact has become even stronger in recent years as equipment has improved. The computing revolution has obviously had the same effect on the tools available to pro & amateur image enthusiasts.

The only problem I see is that the amateur products may need to be approved before release. Not only is review manifestly essential in order to validate scientific findings, but the pros must publish or perish themselves, and they might not appreciate being scooped by an am.

The way that the pro/am process generally works in astronomy is that the pros either have established long-standing relationships with organized groups like AAVSO or ALPO for long-term observation campaigns, or the pros send out a call for observations of discrete events like asteroid occultations, comets, novae, etc. Discoveries of new objects or phenomena by everybody (pros & ams alike) are reported to the IAU via (in the case of asteroids & comets) the Minor Planet Center at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory.

Sorry for telling you more than you wanted to know (or what you knew already! tongue.gif ), but thought it might be helpful to look at precedents & processes when formulating an UMSF pro/am collaborative schema.


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- algorimancer   Formal Pro-Am & Pro UMSF Involvement?   Sep 7 2007, 01:39 PM
- - nprev   I think that's a terrific idea, man! The...   Sep 7 2007, 02:36 PM
|- - algorimancer   QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 7 2007, 09:36 AM) ...T...   Sep 8 2007, 01:37 PM
|- - Thu   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Sep 8 2007, 08:37 P...   Sep 10 2007, 02:47 PM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Sep 7 2007, 06:39 A...   Sep 7 2007, 04:48 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 7 2007, 06:48 AM)...   Sep 7 2007, 05:27 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Sep 7 2007, 10:27 ...   Sep 7 2007, 08:18 PM
|- - algorimancer   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 7 2007, 11:48 AM)...   Sep 8 2007, 01:02 PM
- - Nix   Something collaborative regarding MSL has been on ...   Sep 7 2007, 07:04 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Nix @ Sep 7 2007, 09:04 AM) Someth...   Sep 7 2007, 07:09 PM
- - slinted   This sounds like a great idea. Planning and organ...   Sep 7 2007, 08:24 PM
- - elakdawalla   I've heard nothing about the plans for MSL but...   Sep 7 2007, 08:27 PM
- - paxdan   how about am-indie?   Sep 7 2007, 11:38 PM
- - nprev   Yeah, I noticed that...   Sep 7 2007, 11:54 PM
- - nprev   Oh, okay...I'm with you now! How could th...   Sep 8 2007, 01:48 PM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Sep 8 2007, 08:02 A...   Sep 9 2007, 05:13 AM
- - djellison   Let's have a dose of realism here. There...   Sep 10 2007, 08:47 PM
- - climber   I pretty much agree to what you say Doug, When I s...   Sep 10 2007, 09:28 PM
- - mhoward   I tend to agree with you, Doug. The interesting qu...   Sep 10 2007, 10:42 PM
- - Thu   I got it, Doug. We'll do it step by step.   Sep 11 2007, 03:12 AM


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